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3/6: oesfd on locked board 3/6: oesfd on locked board

03-14-2010 , 02:33 AM
been playing for just a few hands, dont know villain.

To tell the truth I didnt know i had ~50% versus the naked nuts on the flop (so i could also jam profitably)... but since i have no showdown value i elected to call flop/call turn/fold river unimproved. I have 33% on turn versus nuts, so it's correct even if he doesnt call me on river when i hit (which he will in most cases, esp if i hit higher straight).

This way, if i hit till river i stack him, and if i dont i dont lose my whole stack, and i'm not worried about folding the best hand.

is this sound?

IPoker Network $600.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 3 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

SB: $874.45
BB: $1766.03
Hero (BTN): $984.30

Pre Flop: ($9.00) Hero is BTN with A 8 T 4
Hero raises to $21, SB calls $18, BB calls $15

Flop: ($63.00) 7 5 9 (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $47.25, SB folds, BB raises to $168, Hero calls $120.75

Turn: ($399.00) K (2 players)
BB bets $390.00, Hero calls $390

River: ($1179.00) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $1179.00, Hero folds
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03-14-2010 , 02:53 AM
its not really a well-defined term but this definitely not a locked board under any reasonable definition; he found one of the handful of turn-river combos where 86 is still the nuts

your line is totally fine, if you were deeper you could bluff lots of rivers, might get away with it against some people here too but I doubt it
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03-14-2010 , 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by LearnedfromTV
its not really a well-defined term but this definitely not a locked board under any reasonable definition; he found one of the handful of turn-river combos where 86 is still the nuts

your line is totally fine, if you were deeper you could bluff lots of rivers, might get away with it against some people here too but I doubt it
i'm not familiar with the exact definition of "locked board". I use it when there's already a straight/flush possibility on the flop. I guess you mean when there's draws and so on, it's not locked anymore. fair enough.

Regarding bluffing lots of rivers, mathematically I don't even need it here for this to be profitable. But you're def right.
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03-14-2010 , 03:02 AM
I get it in on flop. Not much to discuss imo
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03-14-2010 , 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Th3_S1aught3r
I get it in on flop. Not much to discuss imo
actually, this line *might* be more profitable than just getting it in on the flop. you lose less if you miss, you still get his stack most of the time you hit, and when deeper you can even bluff on some other cards (like board pairing).

so there is something to discuss Note that if I had a pair or something on the flop going with it, then I always jam since I don't want to fold the best hand. But here I have no showdown value also.
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03-14-2010 , 09:06 AM
oesfd on locked board would be TsJs on QsKsKx

i think your line is fine, and wonder whether you're considering bluffing board pairs
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03-14-2010 , 11:14 PM
On the turn on a drawheavy board with these stack sizes isn't it difficult to balance your range for flatcalling? When someone flatcalls on a drawheavy board w/ 1psb behind I think you can usually jam any brick river safely. Isn't the top of range for flatcalling is usually some sort of a set here? So to balance I assume we'd have to call the turn and river w/ a set? I think I'd be more comfortable folding or jamming the turn. But folding def seems nitty, jamming seems spewy, and calling seems exploitable.
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03-15-2010 , 02:35 AM
i think you played it well, you hit a 6 or j and you get his stack almost always. you get paid off with flush sometimes (almost always if u check turn if you hit and bet river). and you can even rep the full house if the board pairs
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