Hey, still getting the hang of PLO, so your thoughts on this is appreciated. Villain is unknown. How is pre-flop? Should I be raising this hand pre or is it fine just to call?

Are you always stacking off on this flop against an unknown at these stakes? There is a flush available, he could have flopped A4 or something. Maybe villain is going crazy with AK, here and hit TPTK, pretty much ruled out AJ based on combos. Really when he 3-bet I'm like he must have a hit a pair and a flush draw. Just shove and get it in?

His bet sizing when he acts first is what I'm looking at, especially when he 3-bets me when I raise. Or should I just discount villains bet-sizing at 2nl? :S

PokerStars Zoom Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($2.13)
SB ($5.59)
BB ($2.27)
UTG ($2.47)
Hero (MP) ($4.87)
CO ($4.49)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 6, 6, J, J
UTG bets $0.07, Hero calls $0.07, 4 folds

Flop: ($0.17) J, A, 4 (2 players)
UTG bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.24, UTG raises to $0.88, Hero raises to $2.80, UTG calls $1.52 (All-In)

Turn: ($4.97) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($4.97) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $4.97 | Rake: $0.17

There's something wrong with the title because there's no Zoom No-Limit Omaha, it's only PLO.

JJ66 rainbow is so weak that it should be never 3-bet pre. In this particular case, I'd fold pre because the raiser is in UTG and the pot will very often be multiway which will be bad news even if you flop a set. I'd call a raise pre if it was from CO and I was on the button, but not in other cases. JJ99 double suited would be way better because it's more connected.

On the flop, raise bigger and fold to UTG's reraise because the vast majority of his range is still AA leaving you only 1 out; he probably wouldn't reraise with a naked K-high flushdraw, he must have a wrap+flushdraw or A+flushdraw; but even if he does this with any K-high flushdraw, it's still a fold. With AJ/A4, he'd probably flat call; A4 without AA is 7 times rarer than AA in a standard UTG range. His sizing is fine and fits to AA pretty well. It isn't a tell anyway. Those times when he has a flushdraw, I think he has something else to go with it, otherwise he'd just call.

Even this veeery optimistic PPT sim gives you <40% when you need 44% to shove profitably (count this percentage as if it was NLO and he shoved into you); I think in reality your equity is ~20% if not smaller.

ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation

5,202,080 trials (Exhaustive)

board: AJ4

Hand	Pot equity	Wins	Ties
JcJd6h6s	40.45%	2,104,221	0
(AA,AJ,J4,A4,44,hh):10%6h	59.55%	3,097,859	0

Where does it say Zoom No Limit Omaha? It says "2nl Zoom", unless someone has edited the topic title for me?

i take the nl in 2nl to mean no-limit.

In any case, JJ66r is not a super weak hand. Versus a random 4 cards this hand wins 58%. If you have AA** that hand wins 65% of the time, so against 4 random cards this hand wins only 7% less than a random AA. So I like this hand at the bottom of our 3betting range against anyone who has a VPIP above 20 and a PFR above 13 or so. This hand against random AA,KK,QQ has about 32% equity which isn't great so if you 3bet and he comes over you can fold. But if he doesn't 4bet you can rule out AA and worst case you are facing KK,QQ. If you're facing other rundown hands like KQJT or QJT9 you are a preflop favorite because your JJ are blockers and you have a made hand.

On this flop, if you had 3bet you would know a little better if your set is good based on his action. If he has AJ + a heart draw you're flipping. Good thing about this board is that he cannot have AJ + wrap. If you against a wrap only you are a 70/30 fav if you are against a wrap that also has a flush draw you are flipping.

What's the hand that has you dominated? AA. Because there are many draws on this board you cannot fold to his 3bet because you're folding to hands you're flipping against or dominating and without having 3bet the hand pre it's not easy to polarize his range to just AA. Even if he did 4bet we have to think there are some KK and good rundown hands in his range a certain percentage of the time.

And that's where we need to weight our equity. What I mean is we need to assign a certain % to the times he has AA and we're crushed and all other hands. I don't know how to do this on pro poker tools but we know that we are 15/85 dogs on the flop to AA, it's worse if AA has a flush draw. Against everything else I'd assume we're probably 55-60% favorite. We're 66% agains Ax hands that also have a flush draw so my 55-60% might be on the low side. Let's make it a flat 60%.

So x percent of time we're a 60% favorite and x percent of time we're only a 15% favorite. We now need to be able to guess what percent of time villain shows up with AA on this flop. Readless I think 30% is reasonable. If villain was an 11/11 player that percentage shoots up...if he's a 65/55 player it would go way down. But let's assume he's a decent regular at 25/20. I think 30% is fine here.

so 30% of the time we're only winning 15% of the time. 70% of the time we'll be in a 60/40 situation. So on average that gives us about 46% equity which is enough to get it in here. Again, against particular villains it easy to adjust the likely hood he has AA. If I had a strong wrap on this board I'd be reraising you all day. I wouldn't want a scare card on the turn to come and you correctly fold.

but I like 3betting against looser villains and flatting against tigher ones. This hand is very playable and imo should not be discarded to one raise pre.

It's not 2 no limit, it's 2 pot limit omaha!

Hmm, he looks strong but at 2plo I have problems folding 2nd set. I just think villains can over value stuff like tpgk+fd or nfd+gs or even bottom set & top 2.
Flatting pre can be fine as long as it's doesn't go >3 way, which it's up to you to estimate if it will based on the table.
I'd flat these kinda of hands vs donks cause they can't fold **** so we haz implied odds. I'm like **** in that I'd prefer a it to be a lil more connected but i think it's pretty style/skill level/table dependent.

If you mean this particular flop, I'd like to play PLO20 with you That's why you arrived at 46% in your calculation. As you may have noticed, I've included almost every decent hand/draw on the earth in my sim (besides QJT - OK, it boosts our equity to 42% but mind the PLO2 rake). Or do you mean the majority of flops where Villain doesn't get a set?
It's technically impossible to have a 2-pair+wrap in 4-card Omaha. Only a 2-pair+OESD/straight is possible.
Do you have 5-3-2 in your UTG range? KQT is not strong enough on this flushdraw flop. Following the same logic, you could 3-bet the flop with absolute air here, but I wouldn't assume a random Villain to be capable of it.
The problem is that random microstakers make many bad preflop cold calls. You're going to get 3-4-way, not exactly IP, in a bloated pot. Probably 3-betting JJ66 is good on BTN vs CO, but in MP vs UTG it's closer to the fold. (However, I don't know how Zoom plays, maybe it's less of a problem because opps are eager to fast-fold.)
That's a pretty good assumption on UTG stats of an unknown Villain. Imho PLO2 is not the place to run 3-betting experiments against randoms.

is this real life?