player is 31/23 and is 27k/70k on PTR
3b is 19% from CO hence my 4b.

Are we ever bet folding here?


Ongame Network $200.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 1688156
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UTG: $242.30
MP: $268.00
CO: $443.28
BTN: $182.00
Hero (SB): $287.56
BB: $688.23

Pre Flop: ($4.00) Hero is SB with K J T A
UTG raises to $6, 1 fold, CO raises to $22, 1 fold, Hero raises to $62, 2 folds, CO calls $40

Flop: ($132.00) 2 5 A (2 players)
Hero bets $81.00, CO raises to $375

uh, no?

@OP i do not know what we are beating at this spot especially after he raised you...do you think that he is tricky enough to play AAxx like that or he would have pushed pre?
it feels either like a set or some sort of two pair

meh after doing the simulation i realized its a call

board: AS 2H 3D
Hand Equity Wins Ties
ad kd ts jh 37.89% 216,036 22,646
23**, a5**, a2**, a3**, a4**, 22**, 33**,a45* 62.11% 361,318 22,646

lol how do you make such a good read and play pre and hten question this flop

Add aa** and it changes a lot

bet flop smaller

wat

Refrain from 5betting AAxx pre 140bb deep. It's a deception play.

yeah bet like 47 on flop.

Also how does your equity sim have 23 and no 34? I presume thats a typo?

@seaking with all due respect betting 47 on flop it does not achieve much except saving us some money, the way it is played he is either folding to our flop bet or he is raising us make us commit even more $. We either feel we have him beat or not.

I am new to this and this is only my opinion, there are far more experienced people. Sorry but the way it went I can't see him folding.

@OP I hope you will tell us what happened at the end:-)

Yeh typo..

Well basically this is why Im wondering here. Im torn between two things (maybe even leveling myself)

When I 4bet here my range is very polarized to AA ( me and villain dont have a lot of history and ive only just started 4beting AKTJ type hands vs loose position 3bettors)

So when he jams here im pretty sure his range is strong (plus he auto jammed)

So a. I cant fold because im getting good odds but b. Am i ever good here vs winning reg?

Maybe im just overthinking things

i would go with the option that against a winning reg you are behind, at best he has A something himself

I mean, he knows you could have aces here, so what do you think he's doing this with?

don't a and b just boil down to "do I have enough equity v his jamming range to bet call here?"

or drilling down, "what's villain's jamming range?"

one word answer pls.

is betting smaller equal parts opportunity to save money and opportunity to complicate mr.villain's response?

I like SK's sizing of 47, he'll prob float us with hands like 4567 and stab if we check the turn. As played, I am somewhat worried about his jamming range, but surprisingly many players shove any A in this spot. Is he one of them?

Provo: Yes.

Because the hands that villain is ready to commit his entire stack with when you have already represented a very possible top set on A25 rainbow actually crush what your hand actually is and are hands you will would rather fold against rather than get all in. Also due to the frequency at which you will have top set you will very rarely and almost never get bluffed in this spot no matter what you bet.

I'm presuming you called it off and either saw a hand like A24Q or AQT5 or simply just 3456 or 3457 for the nuts.

Considering all of his 2pair/trip outs make him a better hand than ours and he might stack off since he will have openended as well, I sure hope he folds rather than floats and generally you aren't going to get floated by a bare gutter/bd wrap here.

+1 on the first part of seakings post

Not so excited on the second part as the way it was played I can't see a fold in him

You're giving him too many combinations of this low cards in a winning player's CO 3bet range here, even if it's as wide as 19%.

Against a range of exactly 22,55,AA and 34**; you still have 11% equity. Since you're getting such good odds on a call, you can call if he has any A*** that doesn't believe you for AA** in his range. You also have 34% equity against two pair, so any 2pair combinations also helps you a lot. I don't think you can fold with the price you're getting, but it's closer than this range above indicates.

I also agree betting smaller is better. This board really hits your range so much harder than his range. Betting smaller also allows you to fold.

What hands have 55xx/22xx/34xx in them that good reg 3bets vs UTG open ? None I think. Reg has A5xx/A2xx close to everytime here and againts them we need to spin the wheel.

Yeh youre right i guess, only hand that realistically beats me is 3456, and something like 2pair type Tthat flopped set. QQ55 8822

So whats the general consensus then here? Ive heard a lot of mixed decisions.
So far I think as played I have to call but if i bet 1/3 pot I can bet fold.

Yeah, b/c 50 $.