[converted_hand][hand_history]IPoker, $0.10/$0.20 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players

BB: $20 (100 bb)
MP: $32.13 (160.7 bb)
Hero (CO): $38.01 (190 bb)
BTN: $23.30 (116.5 bb)
SB: $19.85 (99.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 6 T 8 7
MP folds, Hero raises to $0.70, BTN calls $0.70, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.70) 9 6 Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.85, Hero ??

Hero calls $0.85

Turn: ($3.40) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.40, Hero ??


Tight table, thats why pre-raise. Flop is ok I guess, should I lead or re-raise flop?

Give up on turn obv?

C-bet that flop!!

As played check/call turn because you have like 35%-40%.
If you hit and depending on the type of your opponent you could go for a check/raise or a donking bet.

^ lol what? Fold turn.

Flop ok, turn I would call even with the fact that we don't get directs odds and might have negative implied odd to some of our outs. Thou it looks more like top two than str8 + fd to me.

Bet flop, fold turn

I gave my opinion based on the theory that hero has a lot of equity and it will be relatively easy to extract value even oop.
You reply with a 'lol what' theory. For what I care my theory is more valid than yours. Maybe you could spend a little more time proving I'm wrong. I bet op would appreciate it too.

bet the whole way until he plays back at you. then fold. Be aggressive. At least you will know where you stand.

Pre : I like the open. You have a decent hand and will be able to continue frequently. You are in good position. Sizing is fine, although I usually open 3x.

Flop : You checked. I would always bet here, and I would bet around 2/3rds pot. I would bet here with some / most air, as well as my draws and value hands. There is no flush draw, which improves the value of your draw. Why did you check? Betting allows you to take the pot down now and also lets yuo make a larger turn bet if you hit. On the other hand if you bet you may be faced with a raise.

On the turn you can hit ant 5, 7, 8 or 10. aside from the 10 these are all nut outs. None of the hearts are nut outs. I think folding is fine. Calling MIGHT be slightly profitable.

Well your "theory" is wrong on the turn because we only nut with a 5 or 7 that's non heart. So please tell me about this 40% equity you speak of. Can't remember the last time 4 outs translated into 40%.

So next time you want to be smart take your "theory" and shove it up your ass.

is this a level? cause if so i don't get it

Is this sh_t even permitted in this forum? A guy comes here and gives a honest opinion (even if it's wrong) and it's payback is insults?

Listen dude, I will say again that both your 1st and 2nd opinion are wrong. Now deal with it as you like, I don't give a sh_t.

For those who are interested in really discussing the hand what do you this of this range?
I think the last 2 hands of his range are slightly exaggerated as I think a somewhat standard player would 3-bet from the BTN. Better overestimate than underestimate I guess...

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Player	Equity	Wins Hi	Ties Hi
6h Td 8c 7s	41.1751%	40.9419%	0.4665%
99**, 66**, AQ**, KhJhQT, JT9h8h	58.8249%	58.5916%	0.4665%

^ next time I'm at the tables and I have 4 nut outs I'll call a PSB on the turn and think WWSJD?

If we always have to have nut outs to continue, we will be folding way too much.....

Also, b/c flop. Given our hand structure, this is about the best flop we can get.

I agree but I think in this spot we won't get paid when he hit, we may also pay off the many better hands possible and we may miss completely. We did not take the initiative hense we are pricing out ourselves.

Without a doubt, the Q is a bad card for our hand and makes many of our outs not good, but when we decide to play hands with a gap at the top, this is what we get. But in 6 max the times we are drawing dead with many of our outs is less than one might think. The hearts may be hurting us, but only ~18% of the time...

We just have to bet the flop here, or if villain is aggro enough that we can get a c/r in a lot of the time, we should try that, but c/c is just too weak. We are repping high cards with our pfr and we have a well disguised wrap that is likely to get paid when we hit. That is if villain doesn't have us dominated, like you say. But we can't play scared in PLO or we will fold away too much equity.

If SexyJesus sim is correct then we have direct odds to call a psb on the turn and don't need implied odds to make it correct. We also need to identify the players that won't pay us off. We can then target them for bluffs when we float IP.

^ you def have to bet the flop but as played he gave up on the hand on the flop by checking which is why he needs to give up on the turn.

See the thing is that by the river the pot has become much larger than the $3.4 on the flop. The pot would now be $10.20 and let's say anything non 5 or 7 that completes our straight comes and V pots or near pots ?

Also the times we miss we are burning $3.4 on the turn when our hand isn't as strong as it was on the flop. Which is why I said before we should be taking the initiative in the hand instead of c/c.

Just seems like too many BBs are being burned imo so folding turn is best.

if you check that flop it should be with intention of raising

pair + wrap is a strong hand

I think this is the worst you can do.