Villain plays 49/34/18(3bet) over 200 hands. He cbets 52%, 62% in 3bet pots over 13 occasions.

Anyone dislike pre given his stats?

What do you make of his flop check? Generally, it looks rather strong to me.

We have slightly more than 1PSB behind. What's our turn plan? Start by checking? Bet/fold ~1/3pot? Shove?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $4(BB) Replayer
SB ($337)
Hero ($457)
UTG ($160)
UTG+1 ($551)
CO ($735)
BTN ($248)

Dealt to Hero K 9 Q J

fold, fold, CO raises to $10.50, fold, SB calls $8.50, Hero raises to $42, CO raises to $136, fold, Hero calls $94.50

FLOP ($283) 6 J K

Hero checks, CO checks

TURN ($283) 6 J K 8

Hero?

I think if he's cbetting 62% in 3b pots, he'll stab with more air hands and check back low flushes. A lot also depends on what kind of board textures he's been cbetting as 13 hands doesn't give us enough info. That said, I don't think bet/folding 70ish is that bad. You still have some equity, and check call<check fold<bet fold.

i think i push flop for protection. not good if the turn comes a 6 or an aq or t, though the ten makes us a low straight. and if i comes a blank you still cant know what is up.

I c/r turn

i think this kinda situation is less about stats and more how you have played certain types of hands, how he has played certain types of hands, and his responses to those hands.
also, how you're going to want to play hands like this in the future - with similar holdings, air, and flushes. and that's just a personal preference.
i don't think c/r turn is a very profitable strategy. i'd likely opt to bet something smallish on the flop and see what happens. pushing the flop is prob fine too, who knows

any b/f line seems weird to me here.

on flop if he pots, thats a bit more interesting, what will our frequencies be?

for someone who cbets often, that check is very polarizing imo, with a board that hits you pretty hard(dont know ur playstyle, just assuming) his check is either dumb if he's got the goods or weak for real.

i dont hate betting like 60 ott

i see these agro guys insta pot with the bare Ac, check back nuts alot, might not be one of em but id see his check range was more flushy than bet.

I disagree

@ryan: elaborate please

Hmm. Dont trust me I mean I am learning PLO, but it seems like a pretty WA/WB board. But by polerizing, do you mean you dont think he is checking back KKxx, AAxx, AcTcxx, 7c8cxx, 7h8h9sTs? He basically has nuts / air by checking back is what you mean by it is a polerized check? (I am new to PLO forums so bare with me )

I just think checking back is not bad on this board with a lot of his range. I also think how you would play this board in / out of a vacuum would be very different.

edit: I see what you are thinking I think. He cbets often and this is a good flop to cbet, so good board to cbet with your air. But I think you can also check back with your air and rep strong hands as well.

checking is certainly not bad with a wide range. My personal feeling is that villains would bet their nuts(high flushes) here quite a bit with this flop hitting heros range here quite OK(hero should have high rundowns and KK here quite often, and thus prob willing to get it in on flop) and the only strong hand villain could have(a decent amount of the time) is just that, a good flush.

he should want to get value out of 2 pairs etc. He probably would want to committ himself here with weak flushes 2 pairs etc too, way too many scare cards. by checking I feel he only has nuts(fairly strong flush) or not much(blank aces, some rundown combos)

yeah, polarizing = nuts/air.

checking back leaves the potential for a strong line, But im unsure if one can rep sets/etc here, that really isnt what is in his range anyway(villains)

I need to think about this when not so tired

fwiw: i was commenting on villains flop check earlier(heros check obv reveals nothing much as it is in flow), if that was a source of confusion in my post. time to download some conan o brian and sleep.

With the pot size at 283 and stack size at 320 I am not taking any line that involves folding on either flop or turn.

Probably bet like 130 on the turn.

[ ] 3b pot

If you think pushing the flop is profitable wouldn't a c/r be more profitable?