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07-25-2009 , 04:23 PM

Praetor

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Party Poker $400.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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BB: $492.60
UTG: $1023.50
Hero (MP): $400.00
CO: $440.00
BTN: $400.00
SB: $891.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is MP with T

UTG raises to $14, Hero calls $14, CO calls $14, BTN calls $14, 1 fold, BB calls $10

Flop: ($72.00) A

(5 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $56.00, CO folds, BTN raises to $204, BB folds, UTG raises to $740, Hero folds, BTN calls $182 all in

Preflop raiser who cold goes all in is 37/31 vvv agressive over a big sample. he snap went all in when the action got back to him. BUtton who raises 40/16 not overly aggressive over 130 hands.

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07-25-2009 , 06:43 PM

LazurusLong2

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WP imo.

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07-26-2009 , 12:58 AM

drew13800

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in the moment i prolly get it in...but lookin at this hand you played it well..your equity is bad from what i can tell

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07-26-2009 , 01:34 AM

JROSEALM

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yep i play exactly the same

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07-26-2009 , 03:09 AM

Kardius

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I'd fold.

But $330 more to win $850 ish effective. Opponents have combinations of AAxx, AhXhxx, KhKQhJ, Th9h87, 77xx.

If someone (UTG) has AAxx you should fold, getting 2-15% equity depending on counterfeited wrap cards.

If you're against any other 2 combos it's a call getting around 38-70% equity depending on how much flush and wrap cards overlap.

I guess you need to ask yourself is the button ever flatting junk aces AND is UTG snap check shoving with big draws?

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07-26-2009 , 04:17 AM

rand

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this is the dumbest worst fold i have ever seen

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07-26-2009 , 04:40 AM

IcarusJam

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Originally Posted by rand

this is the dumbest worst fold i have ever seen

i was thinking the same thing...wtf, what kind of flop were you looking for? TTX?

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07-26-2009 , 04:43 AM

BigCityBanker

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Originally Posted by Praetor

Preflop raiser who cold goes all in is 37/31 vvv agressive over a big sample. he snap went all in when the action got back to him.

somehow it seems that you ignored this part when playing the hand.

I dont fold on with this board texture ever, ok so he sometimes has AAxx and when he does it sucks balls but I dont think you can polarise UTG's range to just AAxx combos and nowt else.

If you were playing 150+ bb's I think you have a slightly more interesting decision but for 100bb's its a shoulder shrug.

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07-26-2009 , 08:41 AM

Praetor

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No I didnt forget that, the fact that such an aggressive player checks 5 way on this board as the pfr, and then it goes bet/call from a decent tag and a passive loose player and he snap puts his stack in on this board makes his range very very strong. I have 2 T's, he raised UTG, So AT and bottom set combos have to very significantly discounted, so what is the worst hand he can haev, AKJQ with hearts? The guy on the Button can also easily have AAxx

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07-26-2009 , 08:51 AM

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RobbStarr

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3betting pre is out of the question?

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07-26-2009 , 09:24 AM

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wazz

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wp imo

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07-26-2009 , 12:06 PM

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BananaBalla

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good fold imo

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07-26-2009 , 12:38 PM

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humphreyin

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I don't know how anyone could justify putting it in there?? In situations like this you have to think that A,10 is the ONLY hand you are a big favorite against... there are alot of other hands that you are just FLIPPING against as well..... KQJ with hearts... 89J, 689 with hearts.... You are usually in a 50/50 situation or drawing dead to a 10. Good Fold.

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08-05-2009 , 07:07 AM

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BigCityBanker

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im sorry to be bumping old threads - but your all a bunch of **** nits - strap on a pair of balls.

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