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02-08-2010 , 05:56 PM

Praetor

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PL Omaha $4(BB) Replayer
SB ($427)
BB ($300)
UTG ($786)
Hero ($2,739)
BTN ($682)

Hero antes $0.75
BTN antes $0.75
SB antes $0.75
BB antes $0.75
UTG antes $0.75

Dealt to Hero J

fold, Hero raises to $17.75, BTN calls $17.75, fold, fold

FLOP ($45.25) 7

Hero bets $32, BTN raises to $80, Hero calls $48

TURN ($205) 7

[color=red]Hero bets $205

Villain is basically unknown, 38/19 over 20 hands, not a reg, so assuming baddish at least
Is this bad? Pretty good card for me obv

I would fold flop to a pot raise, but with these odds I dont think I can fold

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02-08-2010 , 05:58 PM

IcarusJam

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i enjoy this

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02-08-2010 , 05:59 PM

CZI

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I like it, especially with your extra blocker.

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02-08-2010 , 06:13 PM

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02-08-2010 , 07:26 PM

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OK, people like this

If the river blanks, do we bluff for 380 into 600 ish? CF a Diamond or paired I assume?

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02-08-2010 , 07:29 PM

ahnuld

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why not go for cr allin? afraid he might commit himself?

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02-08-2010 , 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Praetor

OK, people like this

If the river blanks, do we bluff for 380 into 600 ish? CF a Diamond or paired I assume?

Dunno. Looks like he cant fold better really if river blanks.

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02-08-2010 , 08:35 PM

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I would 3 bet the flop

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02-08-2010 , 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by histler18

I would 3 bet the flop

this seems like a spew with a diamonds there. isnt it?

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02-08-2010 , 09:24 PM

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It is, definitely.

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02-08-2010 , 09:33 PM

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mate, you call that a bluff?

THIS is a bluff

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02-08-2010 , 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Praetor

OK, people like this

If the river blanks, do we bluff for 380 into 600 ish? CF a Diamond or paired I assume?

Yup IMO.

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02-08-2010 , 10:22 PM

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So let`s say river is 2h. Would you fold an ace as villain getting 3-1?
I`m not saying it`s a bad bluff but from villain`s perspective a lot of the made hands we have are now better off bluff catching.
He also blocks 2 combos of AA which should be viewed a big part of our value range on the river.

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02-08-2010 , 10:27 PM

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AA which should be viewed a big part of our value range on the river.

lol?

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02-08-2010 , 10:27 PM

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Wait, what? We're repping 96 here, not AA.

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02-08-2010 , 10:52 PM

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MATT111

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Sry. Got action wrong. Thought we were just bet /bet/betting.

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02-08-2010 , 11:03 PM

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perfect, his sizing looks more like a draw than a made hand IMO.

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02-08-2010 , 11:46 PM

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Villian should never really have aces....so if you three bet the flop to 190 he should be folding his sets that aren't paired with a flush draw and alot of bad draws that he could re raise the flop with. Why wouldn't you 3 bet and fold to a 4 bet? If he calls the 3 bet you should know that if a diamond doesn't hit you should be safe to pot it and if he 4 bets the flop it is better then calling and leading the turn becauase no hand that 4 bets is folding on the turn to your lead of 205. And yes I am new but I do play 10/20 PLO.

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02-09-2010 , 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Adiprene1

mate, you call that a bluff?

THIS is a bluff

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OMG N1!

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02-09-2010 , 09:50 AM

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Pretty bad advice.

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02-09-2010 , 01:35 PM

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Pretty bad advice.

But he does play 10/20 plo!

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02-09-2010 , 02:33 PM

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histler18

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Pretty bad advice.

why bad advice?

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02-09-2010 , 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Adiprene1

mate, you call that a bluff?

THIS is a bluff

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I see you are having fun, but please move to BBV.

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02-09-2010 , 05:00 PM

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I think the very best play here would be c/r allin the turn, and if he checks back chk fold bad rivers..

as played i wouldn't bluff the river. we should be called so often...

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02-09-2010 , 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MVPapa

I think the very best play here would be c/r allin the turn, and if he checks back chk fold bad rivers..

as played i wouldn't bluff the river. we should be called so often...

I don't agree with this. If he's betting the turn with a set+gutter or 2p+FD, he's not very likely to be bet/folding with these stacks. Maybe he'll even bet/call a bare set - I'm not very familiar with 2/4 tendencies and dynamics. If you guys are deeper, I like C/Ring the turn.

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