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04-08-2012 , 03:49 AM

#26

Scrudge

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Pretty sure that minraise is best w/o great reads. On TT3hh calling isprobably better.

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04-08-2012 , 03:52 AM

#27

gordo16

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unless you plan on bluffing later streets if good showdown cards come for his leading range here then just raise the flop and make the hand as easy to play as possible.

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04-08-2012 , 08:19 AM

#28

grizy

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Please raise. People vastly overestimate the probability villain will donk for 3 streets AND then still call off a raise at some point.

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04-08-2012 , 01:11 PM

#29

rand

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Ship flop or all turns is ok with me

I will say no more...

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04-08-2012 , 09:16 PM

#30

The Financier

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I would say this is a massive draw on his part or he expects you to have AA and fold? I can't see myself folding here

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04-09-2012 , 05:56 PM

#31

NthingToLose

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Originally Posted by LOLlivepoker

holy **** thats deep

Thats what she said.

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Originally Posted by grizy

Please raise. People vastly overestimate the probability villain will donk for 3 streets AND then still call off a raise at some point.

+1 big time

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04-09-2012 , 11:15 PM

#32

sauce123

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Originally Posted by Jeff W

We want him to fold naked OESD and hearts at this SPR as he has ~31% equity and he's getting pot odds of 34% to shove. I know calling seems sexy here, but you better be damned sure of your assumptions about his range and barreling frequency to pull it off.

ding ding ding

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04-09-2012 , 11:20 PM

#33

sauce123

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Originally Posted by PartyGirlUK

I call the flop, he can have as little as AKJ9, bad hearts, or total air, I'm not looking to fold on the turn except on, say the 9 of hearts, in which case we win more (lose less) by calling since he is likely jamming any non ace turn with any sort of draw.

i think this would count as what jeff says as "being damned sure of your assumptions."

let's say he donks flop 'too much' (whatever 'too much' is here, i dont claim to know) but then gives up with a near optimal frequency on the turn. now we've ceded a bunch of a EV to his range by not raising flop. how can we be sure enough of our assumptions (given we haven't played the hand ourselves) to advise OP to make a thin slowplay with a low SPR in this spot?

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04-10-2012 , 02:06 AM

#34

Roman

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Originally Posted by sauce123

To me, it seems extremely likely he has a pair+gutter or pair+OESD or gutter + FD hand that he will shove on the turn to try to get an overpair to fold, perhaps its still too marginal but it creates a very profitable situation when he will almost never call bad vs a flop raise

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04-10-2012 , 06:46 AM

#35

Nice_2_Beat_U

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Originally Posted by Doorbread

if he is good at poker i would call with no plans to fold

you don't have a balanced 6bet range lol

serious?

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1KHU 1000bb deep
villain 3bets 47%
villain 5bets 22%
large sample.

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04-10-2012 , 01:53 PM

#36

ISILDRppN

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