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12-29-2011 , 03:40 PM

hideYAkids

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villain is playing 67/0 no other reads got 6 hands
comments on turn and riv plays please

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11457592

BTN: $50 (50 bb)
SB: $156.55 (156.6 bb)
BB: $105.25 (105.3 bb)
UTG: $42.50 (42.5 bb)
MP: $110.65 (110.7 bb)
Hero (CO): $183.70 (183.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A

UTG folds, MP calls $1, Hero raises to $4.50, 3 folds, MP calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.50) 4

(2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $7.50, MP calls $7.50

Turn: ($25.50) T

(2 players)
MP checks, [color="red"]Hero........................

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12-29-2011 , 03:49 PM

bartolomeus

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check.

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12-29-2011 , 04:32 PM

JStoz

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Yah I would check. I could see an argument for a bet if you turned a spade draw as well., but just check and value bet straights.

Also could see an argument for a bet with your hand if you had played more with him and his stats stayed the same (reads dependent ofc).

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12-29-2011 , 05:19 PM

Lemay002

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bet

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12-29-2011 , 05:30 PM

AndreasX

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bet

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12-29-2011 , 06:13 PM

Tyrannic

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if the player is aggressive, we should be less likely to bet the turn since it will be harder for us to realize our equity because he will be c/r the turn more often.

A 67/0 is not this aggro player. I bet and put some pressure on him on the turn because his range is gonna be really wide.

i think you edited your op and its not showing the river. I think it was the ace of spades? vs this guy you can safely bet small/fold to a RR, esp if he has a high wtsd, then he will want to see if his AKxx is good. VS a thinking aggro player river is prob bad to bet small since he will put us on our hand and c/r us off it more often.

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12-29-2011 , 06:14 PM

pFEy

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I would bet this too. Since we only have villains pre-stats to look at I'd expect him to x/c flop v wide. If we 2barrel he will have to fold a ton of gutters midpairs etc and if he x/calls we have good equity. Also you don't have to be afraid of getting x/shoved here often.

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12-29-2011 , 06:29 PM

Tyrannic

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I didn't even see that he check called the flop, hes gonna have like a45 stuff here which will fold to a bet, don't want to give him a free river, where he can bluf us, get to showdown with a weak hand and win, even if he check calls something weak to mid strength its ok we can bluff some blanks and get him to fold, since 3 balling this board looks pretty strong, and he will call us when we hit sometimes.

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12-29-2011 , 07:08 PM

bartolomeus

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If you bet turn and miss you have to bet river big. you have cojones for that? then bet. No ? then check.
also is he the kind of guy who peels flop lifht and folds a shytload of turns to agression ? i dont know. then bet.

he is giving you a freecard and you just have A-high with good draw-equity.

He is not folding any Kxxx/2pair-weak2pair/pair+fd

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12-29-2011 , 07:25 PM

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hideYAkids

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EDIT: RIVER WAS As..........

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12-29-2011 , 07:29 PM

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hideYAkids

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thanks for turn advice seems to be a super great spot to BET turn vs sum1 peeling loose.
river As(completes bdfd) what's the action theres about 1.3psr otr

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12-29-2011 , 07:43 PM

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bartolomeus

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what happend on turn ? did you bet and he called ?
Or did it go check/check ?

Problem is he cant have much, Flush and straight hit and i guess he is even folding 2 pair now.

go for a smallish vbet/blocker-bet. but i cant imagine calling him here unless he has a flush.
its close, i soulread check

if turn went c/b/c

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12-29-2011 , 08:29 PM

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hideYAkids

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OTT i bet and he called.

river i did go for a small bet

he raise, and i folded. Felt like an idiot but not sure vs VPip60+ villains i think we get looked up here a decent amount cause 2 pairs the 2nd nuts.

i do like if turn goes ck ck to b/c tho vs most.

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12-29-2011 , 08:33 PM

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ndahlhoff10

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I think I'd check. I doubt he folds many hands he peeled otf. Most Kxxx has something else now, small straight draws still call, it sucks when we get jammed on, even though it doesn't happen much.

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12-30-2011 , 05:33 AM

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pFEy

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Originally Posted by bartolomeus

Why do you think that we have to bet river once we bet turn? I think with this turncard we fold out a lot of his 1pair (not TP) and gutters. If he x/calls turn I think he has TP, 2pair a lot and therefore I shut down b/c I don't expect a 67/0 to fold 2pair vs a 3rd barrel.

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12-30-2011 , 06:02 AM

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bartolomeus

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Originally Posted by pFEy

If i cant fold out the most part of his range OTT a bet makes it slightly unprofitable for me in the long run.
And im pretty happy seing a cheap river to vbet thin or check behind for SDV.

This station is calling with pair +gutter. so i doubt we can fold that out either.

A high wont ever be good OTR and we have to try to get him off bottom 2pair, middlish pair or tp which is reasonable. But yeah he is not folding top+middle/bottom pair tho.

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12-30-2011 , 02:46 PM

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uphigh_downlow

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If you have 6 hands I would check. However against loose players i tend to bet this. be sureto note the difference between loose and stationy.

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