Hi, I am new on this forum. I've been playing PLO for a few months, and am still not sure about some common spots.

In the hand below, do you think overcalling a 3b is stnd?
Is it a standard stack off on flop given pot odds?
Thanks for your advice.

edit: Forgot to mention the most important thing - the villains are unknown for me at this point.

PL Omaha $1(BB)
SB ($59.30)
BB ($68.55)
UTG ($70.30)
CO ($100)
Hero ($100)

Dealt to Hero K 6 K Q

fold, CO raises to $3.50, Hero calls $3.50, SB calls $3, BB raises to $17.50, CO calls $14, Hero calls $14, fold

FLOP ($56) T 4 7

BB bets $51.05 (AI), CO raises to $82.50 (AI)
, Hero ???
(pot is $189.55, Hero has $82.50 left, pot odds: 30%)

Fold. If you had at least the nutflush draw, then you could call (given the pot odds), but in this case you are not calling. One of them should have the nut FD and the other one the aces. Hence...

Do you think pre is bad?
Would it change anything on the flop if I had K high FD?
I'm not sure if we can narrow CO's range to nfdraws. I mean, would he fold any str8 draws?

Pre is meh but we have position. I think Q/K high fd makes no difference because neither will yield the nuts on this board. You can assume either player has a wrap/fd/set/2pr which all make our hand pretty crappy so folding is best.

Fold pre, fold flop.

Do you mean to fold to an open or after 3b?

Obviously to 3bet.

Yeh that's what I thought, was just making sure ;]

Sounds correct, thanks

i definitely don't fold pre the first time and i need reads to fold the second. don't need much of a read on the bb as being aggro pre to jam this myself. postflop.... blah, it's closer than people are making out but i think it's still a fold, CO doesn't have nut flush draw that often but does have worse flush draws and quite a few straight draws in his range.

Pretty sure flop is a close call unless CO is ridic tight.

In the 30bb sidepot with CO we are around breaking even, maybeee a small fave if he jams any pair + fd, any straight draw + flush draw, any OESD + pair, any two pair or better and any nut flush draw. He prolly also have stuff like JJ + fd in his range.

In the mainpot we need around 24%-25% to break even. I doubt we have less than that, considering BB just auto jams his entire range and CO's range is decently wide.

Edit: Oh and I prolly also call or jam over the reraise PF. Altho I dunno how much this reraise is AA here. If we knew it was 100% AA I would fold. At Party .5/1 as an example I would guess its AA around 50%-60% of the time

What kind of reads would make you fold it to a 3b?

Btw, let's say we are all 200bb deep.
Do you think it would make a call more +EV?
Because on one hand setmining would be obv more profitable, but on the other - we would call strictly in hope for hitting a set on a safe board.

the deeper we are the better calling 3bet becomes

as said calling first time around is fine/must but not deep enough to call 3bet

also potodds are not "pot is $189.55, Hero has $82.50 left, pot odds: 30%)" its (189.55 + 82.50) : 82.50

+ with these odds flop is kinda fml call

To be exact it's 82.50 : (189.55 + 82.50)
and that equals 30,32%

As long as I don't have reason to believe BB is a nit, I just ship this pre when it comes back around to me the second time.

Pre is a fold (or shove, if BB is spewy at all). Otf I think I can't get away from this, because it's not that sure one of them has a higher fd.

Fold pre, call flop as played