holdem is a very different game. u dont raise 85s if u think 4 people are gonna call u do you? u raise to steal pre and if not then on flop, isnt that easy in omaha.
plus 8-high-flushes in multiway-pots have reverse implied odds.
and 58s is a pretty bad hand in the way it flops so many fewer straightdraws than 67.
we have to agree to disagree - raising both these hands fits well into my personal game, its not for everyone, but it works well for me and my style in the games i play
