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€100 - flop top two multiway pot, is this standard?

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01-22-2012 , 05:55 PM

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enthusiast

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 95

Okay yeah just wanted to check this was standard, also curious about villains play here? His play seems a bit loose/******ed but i might be saying that in spite lol do you guys slow down on the turn or just keep betting for value?

thanks

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11680052

MP: $124.90 (124.9 bb)
CO: $34.90 (34.9 bb)
BTN: $45.50 (45.5 bb)
SB: $107.65 (107.7 bb)
Hero (BB): $154.90 (154.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9

MP calls $1, CO raises to $4.50, BTN calls $4.50, SB folds, Hero calls $3.50, MP calls $3.50

Flop: ($18.50) 2

(4 players)
Hero bets $17.60, MP calls $17.60, 2 folds

Turn: ($53.70) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $51.70, MP raises to $102.80 and is all-in, Hero calls $51.10

River: ($259.30) 3

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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01-22-2012 , 06:15 PM

yrmom

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You played the hand fine, though bet a bit smaller on flop and on the turn.

His call on the flop is too loose in this situation, but that's how we make money

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01-22-2012 , 06:37 PM

Omnicide1337

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Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 222

I'm not thrilled about playing this OOP with the T missing. I'm never leading this flop as anyone who re-raises us is most likely crushing us. Even check/calling you need to dodge all clubs and a lot of cards completing straights. As played you need to jam and call off that turn every time.

Biggest thing : this is not a hand to lead OOP into 3 other players.

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01-22-2012 , 06:39 PM

yrmom

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donk/folding flop isn't terrible, but he should make it smaller. Checking is probably better, as you'll be able to evaluate your situation. Not alot of turn cards you like

EDIT: just saw stack sizes, OP should probably give us reads to make a good decision on flop.

Last edited by yrmom; 01-22-2012 at 06:53 PM.

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01-22-2012 , 06:42 PM

Omnicide1337

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Leverage is huge in this game, much more important to have position compared to Holdem. Ask yourself this question when you are in the spot like this on the flop :

If I bet and I am re-raised : what range of hands are they HAPPY that I donk bet/then stack off vs. them?

You will then understand how huge of a mistake leading here is, every decent player who re-raises you will crush you.

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01-22-2012 , 06:43 PM

Omnicide1337

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I dunno, in my experience is is a lot of spew to lead here. would love more opinions tho.

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01-22-2012 , 06:55 PM

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enthusiast

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 95

Yeah i thought my hand was vulnerable and just led out to protect it really. I understand that if he raises we're not really loving life but i didn't want to check and see it check around. Are you going to c/c here then as a default and try to play turns?

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01-22-2012 , 07:08 PM

Omnicide1337

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Change that J to a T and you have more merit to lead, honestly c/c doesn't feel great but it might be your best option post flop. That's why I don't call pre, it's tough to play it with the top gap, especially MW.

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