lol nice

but seriously, every option here sucks

So many turn cards are terrible that I think bet/call is still the only option.

doesn't matter too much at this point, I'd check though

I'd bet call and then hate life.

what turn cards you would raise or fold if flop gets checked through

Hard to argue with this. Just did it yesterday 600bbs deep. i lost. It was awesome.

I check back

+1. I think you're too deep for anything else, and there are a few good turns for us (although not many).

results/turn?

check it back

iPoker, $10.00/20.00 Omaha Cash Games, 5 Players
Hand Converter by Pokerhand.org

Board:
HERO (Button): $16,882
duga2009 (SB): $4,256
Donatore (BB): $2,718
St1nkboX (UTG): $13,208.44
10kbefore2009 (CO): $2,037

Dealt to HERO A 7 A 9

Pre-flop:
St1nkboX raises to $70, 10kbefore2009 calls $70, HERO raises to $310, (2 folds), St1nkboX raises to $790, (1 folds), HERO raises to $2,370, St1nkboX calls $1,820

Flop: ($5,080) 4 9 T (2 Players)
St1nkboX checks, HERO checks

Turn: ($5,080) A (2 Players)
St1nkboX checks, HERO bets $5,460, (1 folds)


got lucky this time,could maybe bet a little less on turn but figured we are on pretty obv aces so I'll just charge the straight/flushdraws the max, but still unsure with the best line, as there really arent many good turn cards, probably all boardpairing and non heart 2,3,5 (6) (K), ace. I feel like pf will just lead us into so many crappy postflop situations, especially when lets say the board comes TT7 with a flushdraw, it's gonna be really tough to get away from the hand, but will be drawing really slim against when he wants it in. Obv we will have ton of good flops for our hand aswell which might outweigh it.

seeing that turn card makes me happy vicariously happy through you

[QUOTE=Jeans;17149539]iPoker, $10.00/20.00 Omaha Cash Games, 5 Players
Hand Converter by Pokerhand.org

Board:
HERO (Button): $16,882
duga2009 (SB): $4,256
Donatore (BB): $2,718
St1nkboX (UTG): $13,208.44
10kbefore2009 (CO): $2,037

Dealt to HERO A 7 A 9

Pre-flop:
St1nkboX raises to $70, 10kbefore2009 calls $70, HERO raises to $310, (2 folds), St1nkboX raises to $790, (1 folds), HERO raises to $2,370, St1nkboX calls $1,820

Flop: ($5,080) 4 9 T (2 Players)
St1nkboX checks, HERO checks

Turn: ($5,080) A (2 Players)
St1nkboX checks, HERO bets $5,460, (1 folds)



Shoulda just potted if 1)he has anything and 2) Hero can fold Aces here?

hands like this is why playing this deep scares me. Thanks for posting

QFT

He won't fold preflop to your 5bet and even if he does you pick up a nice pot with no chance of suckout. Get that pot HUGE, you may be up against low quality aces. By the way, why do you think no way he has KK? Thats much more likely than the other AA.

Exactly right

The cat is out of the bag (he knows you gots dee aceses) so you might as well bet 2/3 to 3/4 the pot. He is very laggy. He will call with an inferior hand. And if you're beat and he check-raises you, you might want to check his c/r stat and make a decision from there. It might be weak to bet 2/3 and fold to his c/r but you do have only one pair on that flop with no draw.

the KKxx has more combinations than AAxx but that does not by any means mean the hand is more likely for obvious reasons.

How do you figure that KKxx has more combinations than AAxx? Could you please explain that to me?

The surest way to know that something isn't even there (let alone obvious) is when someone tells you that this something is "obvious." OK, I give up, what are these allegedly "obvious" reasons why KK is not more likely here?

There are twice as many kings as there are aces among the unknown cards in the opponents' hands. Therefore, KK is more likely to be out against the hero than AA.

He is not 6 betting kings unless they're aakk...

I like your logixs... Next time someone 5bets you allin pf in holdem and you have 55, call, cause there are more combinations of 27 than AA.

Well, I don't think people really 4bet-fold pocket pairs in NL nowadays...

Sorry for offtopic, but couldn't just ignore this.

lol. so whats the plan if the turn is like any card but A? are you just check calling down if the card isnt that scary?

We play poker. Obv there's lots of scare cards, but that's like Omaha Top Set101. I used to teach advanced Omaha Top Set courses as well back when I used to flop sets.

Hmm... I just bomb the flop here.

I see why you want to check it back but I think you're kind of psyching yourself out.

He can have some double-paired hands that are actually folding, small wraps that you are in ok shape against, Axxx hands that are either folding or you are pretty much chopping against (when they have NFD + not much else).

If you are limiting his range to coordinated double-paired hands (QQJJds etc) and very good looking wraps then it seems like you should check back, the only real danger being giving him a shot at a 4-outer.

However most people just don't play that snug, I think there's a good chance he has some scraggly hands that have like 1 pair + gutshot or even less.

And ya, NLHE 4bet/folding 55 is worse than 4bet/calling unless we're playing deep AND have a good read.