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11-12-2009 , 06:01 PM

donger

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Villain in this hand is 46/15 PF with a 0.8AF and 35 WTSD after 40 hands. He seems loose and bad. Can we bet-fold here with an SPR < 3?

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PL Omaha $2(BB) Full Tilt
SB ($676)
BB ($104)
UTG ($621)
UTG+1 ($399)
Hero ($665)
BTN ($228)

UTG+1 antes $0.30
Hero antes $0.30
BTN antes $0.30
SB antes $0.30
BB antes $0.30
UTG antes $0.30

Dealt to Hero Q

UTG raises to $8, fold, Hero raises to $28.80, BTN calls $28.80, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($70.40) T

Hero bets $56,

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11-12-2009 , 09:06 PM

IcarusJam

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without another diamond with the ace of diamonds, yeah

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11-12-2009 , 10:42 PM

LazurusLong2

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My question about this hand is pre. Rule of thumb for 3 or 4 bet is 25% of effective if around 100bbs. How deep do we need to be to circumvent that rule?

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11-13-2009 , 02:42 AM

Praetor

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^^ what?

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11-13-2009 , 08:25 AM

LazurusLong2

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Originally Posted by Praetor

^^ what?

Sorry, I didn't state the question well. I have read both in books and on the forum that with aces, we should aim for our 3bet to be around 25-30% of effective stacks, so that we have a spr fairly close to 1.

If effective stacks were 2000 bbs, this would of course be pretty impossible to achieve, but we would still want to raise with our good aces.

The question is what bb stack disregards getting a certain percentage in pre flop because the stacks are too deep to realistically do it but still wants to 3or 4 bet?

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11-13-2009 , 11:32 AM

Praetor

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thats talking about 4 bets where our range is almost exclusively Aces, when its just a 3bet its different

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11-13-2009 , 02:43 PM

MalkasGambit

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OP,

WP.

Lauzurus,

That is for 4-bets.

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11-13-2009 , 06:50 PM

LazurusLong2

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Originally Posted by MalkasGambit

OP,

WP.

Lauzurus,

That is for 4-bets.

OK, is there a rule of thumb in bbs for effective stacks for 4 bets where we are deep enough that we 4bet even though we can't get 25-30% of our stack in pre?

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