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10-02-2009 , 01:58 PM
Game is at the gutshot. Directly on my left is a guy who's popping ephexedrine, I think, a type of amphetamine, has been awake for 40 hours or so, says it's the first time he's playing omaha and was potting blind a lot earlier. I limpreraised him once too many when my stack was < £200 and he's not doing it so much anymore. Loose-passive fish when he's seen his hand, laggy when he's blind. He's in the CO and covers me.

In the SB is poisson. Obv a french dude, and a fish. He doesn't appear to be a complete idiot and has probably played lots of PLO in the past. His tendencies on the four or so hours I've been playing with him have been to call very loose pre from all positions and put money into the pot after the flop and fold. He hasn't been particularly aggro with draws. My image ought to be tight-aggressive and competent, I haven't shown down anything but good made hands so far.

In an earlier pot (three hours or so) I limped JJ75 in a straddled pot with 3 diamonds, amphetamines called, poisson completed, the flop came T42 with a diamond draw, I bet, got called by both, turn 7, poisson checks, I fire £55 into £120, amphetamines calls, poisson dwells for a good few minutes and passes, river is a 6, it's checked down and amphetamines 2467 wins. Poisson claims to have folded JJT4 no diamonds, so might be peeved at having laid down the best hand that would have held up, but I don't think he's on tilt as he's now ahead.

Stacks: Poisson has about £520, I have £440, amphetamines has us both covered.

My hand: KQQJ

I open to £7, amphetamines calls, button folds, poisson calls, BB folds.

Flop: KT6 (pot £23)

Checked to me, I bet £15, amphetamines calls, poisson makes it £80 total, BB folds, and it's on me.

Last edited by wazz; 10-02-2009 at 02:24 PM.
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10-02-2009 , 02:28 PM
just peel, seems unlikely raising is ever going to get a fold out of him
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10-02-2009 , 02:31 PM
has he seen his cards?


The QQ in your hand weighs it to wards the dreaded range and cuts down your options. call and continue on all diamonds and str8s is my choice. A queen might be good enough to continue with as well, but depends on what unfolds.

I'd also prefer if amphetamine subsidizes this pot with some of his money.

ps: I s a pound worth 2$ now ?
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10-02-2009 , 03:42 PM
I'd call expecting amphetamines to call behind. Get it on on straigt cards and diamonds...probably a Q aswell depending on the action
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10-02-2009 , 04:02 PM
was in a very similar spot like this a couple of days ago, except player descriptions were a little different.

anyway, b/f this flop seems kind of gross, and 3betting this against a loose-passive player is spewy. given the stack sizes, i think it's a call. not having absolute position kind of sucks, and you can expect SB to fire out a pretty big bet on the turn if it's a brick. so you'll be stuck with a decision on the turn if it comes like, a 3, but with BD diamonds, i like a call and re-eval the turn.
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10-02-2009 , 04:06 PM
i re-raise, for a lot of reasons
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10-03-2009 , 01:10 AM
Yeah, definitely call. When the passive live player's check/raises a KT6r board multiway, he's going to have a made hand 95% of the time and expecting him to check/raise/fold with these stacks after potting it is really optimistic.
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10-03-2009 , 06:28 AM
I don't see how I can flat this, if I do and the other guy calls behind me (which he might easily do with a hand that includes J9 or AJ) the pot will be £260, I'll have £350 behind and he's surely betting most turns. I think I have fold equity against hands like bottom set - I know it's live and I rarely should have fold equity against bottom set but I think a repot would look very strong to this guy and that he'll get out of the way, especially if amphetamines behind me decides to gamble with a draw. If he has top two pair, he might sometimes have a good draw with it like KT98 or KJT9 and fold them for fear of being up against a set. If he doesn't want to fold top two, I have lots of outs against his hand. No-one else think I should repot or fold here?
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10-03-2009 , 06:58 AM
I think you should fold and i really dislike flatting.
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10-03-2009 , 10:30 AM
i think fold> call > raise
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10-03-2009 , 11:07 AM
I like bet/fold here. Your edge in this game this deep should be pretty huge, so I don't mind folding and waiting for a better spot, esp in rr pre pots. I'd expect when you have nutted hands and psr it, you will get the action that you decline to give him here (even if he has a wrap etc). I would rarely flat here, unless I viewed him as passive on later streets and I was able to bluff/rep any runner runner combos that come.
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10-03-2009 , 11:47 AM
oops misread hh, yeah i'd fold, maybe call sometimes
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10-03-2009 , 01:00 PM
call fold raise
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10-03-2009 , 03:58 PM
1st off, love the villain reads/names. 2nd, do you have FE against poisson? Doesn't sound like it from gameflow as described. Shove and get it in bad, or fold and give up your pot equity. I guess shoving and calling are both alright for meta purposes if you want them to gambol even More with you later on.
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10-03-2009 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JROSEALM
oops misread hh, yeah i'd fold, maybe call sometimes
screw you, I spent like 10 minutes thinking what reasons might be to raise
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