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01-15-2014 , 09:04 AM
Villain: Seems to be the best player at the table, has been running over the game for a while. 7 handed. 2700 in chips. He has 3-bet me twice, once surrendering on T98r board (I bet turn he folded) and once c-betting KQ5ss and I c/f. He has shown mostly good hands and has been min-3 betting me while potting anyone else (respect?)

Hero in CO with KQT5. 1300 effective.

Pre: UTG limps, UTG2 limps, hero limps, villain raises to 25, 4 ways.

Flop (100) : Q52
4 checks.
Turn (100) : Q52 4
2 checks, hero bets 75, villain calls 75, 2 folds
River (250) :Q52 4 J
Hero checks, villain bets 250.

Thoughts on river? Flop I obviously was going to CR assuming he bets this dry board often.
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01-15-2014 , 10:10 AM
Not c/r this flop

this is a fold imo i would put him on at least QJ and more likely a set the way the hand played out
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01-15-2014 , 08:40 PM
I think I look him up here. I'm guessing he makes a small raise on the turn if he has a straight, and I don't see someone aggressive checking when they flop a set, so maybe he has 44 but I doubt it. It just seems like he is way more likely to have a hand that missed a draw than something like qj even.
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01-15-2014 , 09:52 PM
I'd probably dump it and say nh. I don't see a lot of hands that turned huge that he has to go twice or nothing with. That is I don't think there are a ton of bluffs in his range.
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01-24-2014 , 07:21 PM
This is 100% a raise pre-flop. Our hand flops VERY well, and is fairly easy to play post-flop .

We want to be building the pot in position with hands like this one. I'd be raising significantly weaker hands from the CO, actually.

And the most obvious point: seat change IMMEDIATELY. You have the best player at the table sitting to your direct left, which makes your seat the absolute worst. Changing to literally any other seat would massively increase your expected value.

Why you didn't pot the flop is beyond me. This isn't a good spot to c/r at all. There are so few draws out there... if we c/r and get re-raised, we are totally screwed.

As played, I fold the river.
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01-25-2014 , 03:59 AM
Yeah thats pretty bad

1) Pot preflop clearlyyy
2) As played should have bet flop like 70 for sure, and call a raise, reraise this deep flips your hand face up which if terrible with such a vulnerable hand this deep
3) As played good turn bet
4) As played b/f and x/c river are close but definitely no other option to consider
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01-25-2014 , 11:49 AM
For the record I was villain in this hand, and Hero was the only other thinking player at the table. I thought river was a good bluff catching opportunity in a spot where villain doesn't have much value besides A3xx, which is what I had.
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01-25-2014 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by OmahaDonk
For the record I was villain in this hand
then why didn't you just say so in OP?
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01-25-2014 , 02:36 PM
Because he wants to make sure that his river play is good with 678Jhh.
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01-26-2014 , 12:47 AM
The hand is not interesting from my perspective. I had the wheel and it was straightforward to play.

From his perspective I am not sure exactly what he had but I assume it looked like 2 pair or a set.

And I think it's a mistake for him to be folding that unless he has a good read or expects me to rarely bluff - was seeing if others thought so too. Seems mixed.

Sorry to have deceived, was just easier to pretend we were hero..
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01-26-2014 , 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by OmahaDonk
The hand is not interesting from my perspective. I had the wheel and it was straightforward to play.
I wouldn't ask for help from anyone who doesn't have the mental capacity to understand this and take it into consideration.
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02-06-2014 , 05:33 PM
cbet flop or bet pot imo^^
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02-06-2014 , 06:11 PM
i'd expect ppl to have the wheel a ridic high % of the time until they show me otherwise
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02-08-2014 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Hoopman20
I wouldn't ask for help from anyone who doesn't have the mental capacity to understand this and take it into consideration.
i am confused and out here ..

good play.
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