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05-10-2014 , 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by phantom_lord
What do you do for a living ShaneG?
I used to play poker, working towards being a sports journalist atm. You?
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05-10-2014 , 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ShaneG
I don't profess to be an expert on the theory of evolution, I just look for basic flaws in the theory and stay at that like a dog to a bone. Darwin was corrupted, just like many of the other so called profound figures that we're taught to accept as gospel.
Well, you haven't found a flaw since what you stated isn't actually part of the theory of evolution. How was Darwin corrupted? Can you give an example of a non-corrupted person?
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05-10-2014 , 07:20 AM
Darwin had freemason affiliations, and would have been well funded for his work.

"Most educated, rational people will find it almost impossible to believe that the debate of Darwinism through mainstream news papers and the principal TV channels is forbidden. I still find it hard to believe myself," Richard Milton

Better question FC, when you die do you believe that you cease to exist and that it's eternal black nothingness?
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05-10-2014 , 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ShaneG
Better question FC, when you die do you believe that you cease to exist and that it's eternal black nothingness?
I have no idea, why do you ask?
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05-10-2014 , 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by ShaneG
Darwin had freemason affiliations, and would have been well funded for his work.

"Most educated, rational people will find it almost impossible to believe that the debate of Darwinism through mainstream news papers and the principal TV channels is forbidden. I still find it hard to believe myself," Richard Milton

Better question FC, when you die do you believe that you cease to exist and that it's eternal black nothingness?
Perhaps a more parsimonious explanation for Darwin's funding source is that he was from a well to do family. Wealthy individuals comprised the vast majority of researchers in that time.

And the "debate" of evolution is akin to debating gravity.

Shane, frankly, you're kind of an idiot. I can't imagine you being successful in any of your writing classes, at least if your approach to developing and defending an argument is like what you've shown here.
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05-10-2014 , 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by FeralCreature
I have no idea, why do you ask?
You said you were atheist, I thought this meant you don't subscribe to religious after life or reincarnation possibilities? Curious, that's all.
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05-10-2014 , 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by zoltan
Perhaps a more parsimonious explanation for Darwin's funding source is that he was from a well to do family. Wealthy individuals comprised the vast majority of researchers in that time.

And the "debate" of evolution is akin to debating gravity.

Shane, frankly, you're kind of an idiot. I can't imagine you being successful in any of your writing classes, at least if your approach to developing and defending an argument is like what you've shown here.
Maybe your right about his funding, but who knows for sure?

And rofl at your unwillingness to debate evolution, there are numerous theories and narratives out there, to state categorically that any one of them is definitely the correct theory would be fallacious.

Comparing it to gravity is pure jokes btw, we can experience the effects of gravity all the time, apes turning into humans otoh, not exactly something that you can possibly validate.

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05-10-2014 , 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ShaneG
You said you were atheist, I thought this meant you don't subscribe to religious after life or reincarnation possibilities? Curious, that's all.
No, it simply means I don't believe in god. An atheist can have all sort of supernatural beliefs.

Just as with the evolution, you seem to be basing your opinion on your own false perception of the others position. As for debating evolution, are you actually interested in doing that? I told you previously that you were wrong, but you have shown no interest in learning just how you were wrong.
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05-10-2014 , 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by zoltan
Perhaps a more parsimonious explanation for Darwin's funding source is that he was from a well to do family. Wealthy individuals comprised the vast majority of researchers in that time.

And the "debate" of evolution is akin to debating gravity.

Shane, frankly, you're kind of an idiot. I can't imagine you being successful in any of your writing classes, at least if your approach to developing and defending an argument is like what you've shown here.
I believe in Evolution (and dinosaurs fwiw ), but I wouldn't put Evolution in the same basket as gravity.
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05-10-2014 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by FeralCreature
No, it simply means I don't believe in god. An atheist can have all sort of supernatural beliefs.

Just as with the evolution, you seem to be basing your opinion on your own false perception of the others position. As for debating evolution, are you actually interested in doing that? I told you previously that you were wrong, but you have shown no interest in learning just how you were wrong.
So much fail in the bolded bit, you told me I was wrong but you don't tell me how I was wrong, and instead claim I have no interest in learning just how i'm wrong
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05-10-2014 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ShaneG
Maybe your right about his funding, but who knows for sure?

And rofl at your unwillingness to debate evolution, there are numerous theories and narratives out there, to state categorically that any one of them is definitely the correct theory would be fallacious.

Comparing it to gravity is pure jokes btw, we can experience the effects of gravity all the time, apes turning into humans otoh, not exactly something that you can possibly validate.
Um, in case you didn't know, HISTORIANS know for sure, because his entire life was pretty well documented. Not like his family was unknown.

If you weren't a troll, I could list about 489657855 instances of known effects of evolution, but as long as you remain convinced that apes turned into humans, it's clear you're both a troll and an idiot.
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05-10-2014 , 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by zoltan
Um, in case you didn't know, HISTORIANS know for sure, because his entire life was pretty well documented. Not like his family was unknown.

If you weren't a troll, I could list about 489657855 instances of known effects of evolution, but as long as you remain convinced that apes turned into humans, it's clear you're both a troll and an idiot.
eh wut
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05-10-2014 , 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ShaneG
So much fail in the bolded bit, you told me I was wrong but you don't tell me how I was wrong, and instead claim I have no interest in learning just how i'm wrong
Because that's normally how debates work. When someone tells me I'm wrong and I don't know why, I ask them to explain their position and what was wrong with what I said. You, on the other hand, just say '"well I'm not expert" and then start blabbering about something completely unrelated, like Darwin's funding.

For someone who constantly claims how he is so enlightened, as opposed to us sheeple who are living blindfolded, it must be slightly disconcerting that you a) don't actually know what an atheist is and b) don't actually understand the theory of evolution (regardless of whether you believe that theory to be true or not).
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05-10-2014 , 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by zoltan

If you weren't a troll, I could list about 489657855 instances of known effects of evolution, but as long as you remain convinced that apes turned into humans, it's clear you're both a troll and an idiot.
so you're sure he is a troll yet you keep giving him serious answers, good job
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05-10-2014 , 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by FeralCreature
Because that's normally how debates work. When someone tells me I'm wrong and I don't know why, I ask them to explain their position and what was wrong with what I said. You, on the other hand, just say '"well I'm not expert" and then start blabbering about something completely unrelated, like Darwin's funding.

For someone who constantly claims how he is so enlightened, as opposed to us sheeple who are living blindfolded, it must be slightly disconcerting that you a) don't actually know what an atheist is and b) don't actually understand the theory of evolution (regardless of whether you believe that theory to be true or not).
So what if i'm not an expert on these things, who is? What's far worse, is you clearly don't know how a debate works, merely saying "you're wrong" without presenting any argument or explaining why the other person is wrong isn't a valid form of debate, and that's exactly what you've done. You would lose and get booed out of the place if you did that in a proper debate.
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05-10-2014 , 08:41 AM
Someone's gotta say it..


ShaneG do you think that the holocaust didn't happen as well?
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05-10-2014 , 08:54 AM
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so you're sure he is a troll yet you keep giving him serious answers, good job
Sorry, should have kept my known instances of evolution number to 5 figures.
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05-10-2014 , 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ShaneG
So what if i'm not an expert on these things, who is? What's far worse, is you clearly don't know how a debate works, merely saying "you're wrong" without presenting any argument or explaining why the other person is wrong isn't a valid form of debate, and that's exactly what you've done. You would lose and get booed out of the place if you did that in a proper debate.
One need not be an expert in evolution to know that nobody in the field thinks humans descended from apes.
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05-10-2014 , 09:02 AM
Shane,

Since you don't believe in evolution, can you please enlighten us as to what you actually do believe? At the very least let us in on some possible alternatives to evolution.
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05-10-2014 , 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ChaseNutley26
Shane,

Since you don't believe in evolution, can you please enlighten us as to what you actually do believe? At the very least let us in on some possible alternatives to evolution.






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eh wut
His most cogent reply thus far. QFMFT.
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05-10-2014 , 09:22 AM
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So what if i'm not an expert on these things, who is?
People who study evolution?
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05-10-2014 , 09:45 AM
Lol at listening to the people in Big Evo
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05-10-2014 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by ShaneG
I reject mainstream science on grounds that are based on facts...

So many unanswered questions when it comes to science.


OMG just found this thread. Wow. Shane, you are a special kind of crazy.

You do realize you're typing on a computer/smartphone/tablet which would not exist if not for "mainstream science", correct? And that device receives electricity and information generated via processes which "mainstream science" discovered and has applied to our everyday lives? Is the electromagnetic spectrum a conspiracy? Magnets? Polymers? Electrons? Or transistors, is the BIG TRANSISTOR industry faking us all this time into buying some snake oil product? That same science allows you to drive a car, fly an airplane, make a phone call, cure a disease, get a GPS location from a freaking satellite orbiting the earth, live past age 30, and grow enough food for billions of people.

Buuuut maybe all of the above comes from aliens or something or comes out of some other dimension which you claim that humans inhabit but animals do not. What exactly is your claim? If you post that science is to be rejected then you need to say what other superior concept/idea you are replacing it with.
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05-10-2014 , 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Johnny Chase
Someone's gotta say it..


ShaneG do you think that the holocaust didn't happen as well?


Yeah, I'd like to hear this as well.

Shane,

What is your opinion on the holocaust?
Also, how many children do you believe died at Sandy Hook?
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05-10-2014 , 11:17 AM
Shane,

Check this video out. Not only does the song rock, it also has an evolution-centric bent to it. What do you think?

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