So I had a ticket left over for an Oasis gig in Düsseldorf, sold it at eBay.

Buyer (let´s call him George for the sake of simplicity) insta-ships money, confirms address, I send a registered mail...All very standard up to this point, this was 5 days to the gig but still no problem at all as a mail takes 1 day.

1 or 2 days before the gig George complains the ticket wasn´t in his hands yet. I track it and the customer service finally tells me it was send back cause his address couldn´t be found or s/t. Deutsche Post doesn´t suck, I won´t send again until George confirmed another address or that he worked out the one he gave me.

I write George several E-Mails with updates on the situation, give him my number so we could meet in front of the venue for delivery, to which he doesn´t reply at all for a full 10 days. Fwiw I think I handled the deal in a friendly and professional manner so far.

Meanwhile he majorly sucks out on fate by Oasis postponing the gig by 2 weeks (the ticket wasn´t back at mine at the planned day of the gig).

Yesterday I finally receive a mail, after I had come to the conclusion that he must be really ill or dead.

It reads:

"Hi Squirrel,
Still no ticket!!! Do you know where it
is?

Regards,

George."

WTF???

I basically sent George the same mails again. Idk what is going on, but it doesn´t look like George´s gonna get the ticket if you ask me.

What´s my move? - A bit of a moral problem imo.

I thought about this being some sort of weird scam but can´t seem to find reason in this theory. Keep in my mind it´s technically George´s ticket.

Thx for answering!

You did everything you could to get the ticket to him if he gave you the wrong address that his fault. The not replying to email thing is weird was the last email you received from a different address? Maybe you have been trying to contact him at an address he infrequently uses.

"I need to contact my buyer.
Click the 'Advanced Search' link at the top of most pages. On the left-hand side of the page, click the 'Find Contact Information' link and follow the instructions."

You should be able to get a phone number through that method I think.

You sold the ticket to the guy and failed to get it to him.

You should feel bad and figure out how to get him the ticket or give him his money back.

I don't know who screwed up the first mail, you, him, the dusseldorf post master general. Doesn't matter. He didn't get it.

So how do you proceed from here. You don't get to make a half-hearted attempt and then just kind of give up when you sell someone something. You have a responsibility to get them the item they purchased or refund them their money.

I would like to know the scam where the guy insta-ships his money for a concert ticket. Has to be a new one.

Clearly george is not seeing your (e)mails. I assume they are e-mails you are sending him. Perhaps you are hitting his spam filter so he never sees them and he is sitting there going why is this guy ignoring me.

While on your end it seems like you are trying, he has not been the least bit unreasonable or demanding. So you have to assume there is some sort of communications issue... Look at it from his side potentially and you have a guy who claims he mailed the ticket but it never got to you and now he won't even respond to an e-mail.

Do you have his phone number? if so call him. If not perhaps try to contact him from a different email address and give him your phone number and tell him to call you.

It sounds like your emails may be making it into the spam folder of his email address.

I'm quite sure he should not feel bad. H sent the mail with the correct address that George provided him. He's been making multiple attempts to get a hold of George. I would find it a bit odd that George errors on the side of not taking action more so than taking action, but I don't know that I would feel bad. Seems a bit unfortunate at any rate.

Send him an email through PAYpal or Ebay, since it looks like he isnt getting your other ones? Although I doubt that, because he would have figured he was getting ripped off since he never got the ticket and reversed the transaction.

If its not too late id sell the ticket to someone else, and just refund dumbass his money. If thats not an option then oh well, too bad for him, I keep the money.

also, feeling bad about this would be ******ed as you have done 100% of everything you should have done. You shouldnt feel bad you are dealing with an idiot.

Tell him to STFU.

He mailed it to the address given, which apparently didn't exist.

Now, if he can't get it to him he has to give him a refund? So, concert rolls around,

guy says "hey, still wondering where that ticket is"
OP "oh, I sent you 50,000 emails asking where the **** you live"
guy, "Oh, well, I want my money back"
OP "great, now I won't be able to sell the ticket to anyone and I'm out X dollars because you apparently can't spell "Douche street" correctly."

Don't seem fair to me.

Did you even read the 2nd half of the OP? He made SEVERAL attempts to contact the guy through several different ways and HE NEVER responded till after the original date of the concert. If I concert tix and never responded i sure as hell would be checking my email and voicemail several times a day and respond ASAP.

At this point I would tell the buyer you think something shady is going on and it's not worrth the hassle of dealing with people who can't relate an adress properly. I would offer to refund his money and re-sell the ticket.

No he sent the guys some e-mails about it after it came back form the bad address. I already said I don't personally know who screwed up the address. For all I know the OP sent it to the wrong place.

If his e-mail is getting blocked then those e-mail attempts all are meaningless, even if it sent 10000000 e-mails.

It is pretty obvious the guy did not get his e-mails. It is also clear the OP is a bit lazy. This is why I avoid E-bay like the plague. It is amateur hour for people who want to sell things but don't really want to do the work to do it right.

Says who? The OP? How do you know he didn't mis-mail it or do something that otherwise caused the package to not to get there. What motivation does the BUYER have to give a wrong address? Like I said in my original response, it doesn't matter at this point it did not get there.

If you want fair you should not be trying to sell things on the internet. He offered it for sale. I think he is obligated to put forth more than a half-arsed effort to get the ticket to the buyer, which is ALL he has done so far. All he has done is sent the ticket to the wrong address and sent some e-mail. He spent more time writing this OP then doing any of those things. If he has some free e-mail account or some scandal-plagued domain name, it is possible his mail gets filtered from a lot of places. Why should the buyer be forced to pay for something he could not use because the seller had a potentially bad e-mail address or could not fill out an envelope properly.

I am not sure what about the OP's post makes you think he was hyper-diligent and careful about how he handled his end of this.

There are two sides to every story, and the only fact I am sure of is the BUYER shipped his money almost immediately.. which puts into question a lot of what the seller did in this case...

If you look at the actual actions on both sides that both sides might agree upon, the only one who looks shady so far is the OP. So if he is not being shady he needs to make an effort to make it right.

If email is the only way the contact info other than the bad physical address how exactly is it his fault that the buyer didn't contact him? and how exactly is sending several responses to the email being "lazy"?

At this point it is obvious you got burned on ebay once or twice and just have some sort of ax to grind with people who use it.

If a person is dumb enough to buy something without providing the correct adress to send the goods to and is also so massively stupid as not to check the only method of communication he has with the seller then the buyer gets exactly what he deserves.

eh, I don't have the energy to contend with OOTiots any more over obvious things. I am done in this thread.

Thanks for the input guys.

I checked George´s profile and 10 days ago a seller stated this feedback:

"Fast payment - Great communication - Excellent eBayer "

This feedback is for an auction that actually shows a buyer´s sn different to George´s one that I got. Idk why that is. Fwiw it was for online tickets so naturally there weren´t any difficulties in physical mailing to be expected. If it was George anyway...

Also George initially clearly responded to an email:

"Hallo squirrel,

Money has been sent and yes my address is xxxxxxxxxx,

Thanks
very much.

George."

This basically adds up to that the communication leak on his side started after this imo.

There´s only one email address displayed in the original "successful sell" mail.

eBay automatically fastforwards to the member´s email adress, shouldn´t make a difference to write a message solely through the email program - which I did anyway now that I was called lazy itt.

Also the member messages through eBay´s "My Messages" are labeled as eBay mails, so ytf would they go to the Spam folder?

Tried that, couldn´t find a phone number, George´s new to eBay, very likely didn´t put it up.



I´m really trying, tho the refund is tricky imo. I was waiting all the time for him to respond, I can´t sell s/o´s stuff without an urgent need for and no contact. Now I can only sell privately / in front of the venue which is pretty much George´s fault. If I don´t realize the price George paid there, am I taking the disprofit on my end? I don´t think that´s fair.

I did that now again from a different email address as you suggested.

It´s all the same sytem imo, no PAYpal fwiw. This shouldn´t be the issue ever when handling an email program anyway as said.

I didn´t and it´s hard to, mistakes cause a delay in shipment but not a retour.

wtf. You´re acting like I´ve got the ****ing FBI to track this guy down. It´s limited information over the internet after all. Also keeping a valid mailbox and addressing it correctfully somewhere in Düsseldorf isn´t rocket science.

b/c I had a potentially bad e-mail address? How the **** do you come up with that statement?

lol shady also kudos if I´ve been leveled itt

I found George´s facebook, sent a message there.

George´s gonna give me a call. Looks like case closed.

Let me guess, you are some European jerk who works 20 hours a week and complains about 45% unemployment.

Try sending him some anthrax.

Given what I said, your reply makes zero sense.

As for George calling, that is good sounds like it should be easy to deal with...

Sometimes people get so hooked up with freaking texting, and emailing they dont use the phone which in cases of misunderstanding are capable of clearing up an issue in a fraction of the time.

I think I understand why Dids has markksman on ignore now.

QFT.

OP should have obviously ran an IP trace and tracked this dude down MacGyver style.

Yeah clearly George is a freak in this regard.

If George doesn´t call me in time tomorrow evening - this

markksman, your posts in here are some of the worst i've ever read anywhere on the internet, congrats.

+1 for douchebaggery