I'll take being a radical vegan over an ethically inconsistent, vegetarian pussy any day

You can send me those filets you didn't eat, hifi

This is actually true. I consider myself a christian, in that I follow the teachings of christ.

The main one being "love your neighbor" or in other words "treat others how you want to be treated"

What a lot of people miss is...he was not talking about only humans. He meant all animals, and that is why Jesus was a vegetarian.

Obviously this kind of thing (among other things he was teaching) couldn't be allowed by the powers that be, so they killed him for it.

Whatever else he was, I honesty don't know, but I've read the bible, and there is not one instance in it of Jesus consuming meat. Not one. Yes, he multiplied loaves and fishes to feed starving people, but he did not eat the fishes himself.

That's not to say the modern day church isn't incredibly corrupted, but his message remains the same, no matter how corrupted it gets.

The easiest way to stop eating meat is to stop and think for a moment about Jimmy Hoffa. Why Jimmy Hoffa? The legend goes he was killed by the mob and buried under giants stadium. Of course, thats not the truth. The truth is, he and whoever else was killed by the mob was eaten by somebody. Possibly even you.

See, the easiest way to dispose of a body, especially back in those days when forensics didn't really exist, is to simply put it through the ole meat grinder. A vast majority of the people that disappeared in this world over the past century were fed to a meat grinder. And let's think here, where was the center of the meat packing industry? Chicago. And who controlled Chicago and to some extent still does? Organized crime.

If you eat any type of meat, you are literally a cannibal. Sorry to be the one to break it to you. Unless you've stuck to grass-fed organic-farmed beef your entire life, you've eaten at least a part of a person before.

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Vegans calling vegetarians pussies ITT

lol @ someone ate Jimmy Hoffa and it might have been you.

This thread is turning out much better than expected!

Being a vegan or vegetarian must be pretty miserable. You all seem grumpy.

Your point is valid. Like I've said before, it's virtually impossible to live a 100% vegan lifestyle in modern society because animal bi-products are omnipresent. Sugar is filtered through bone char, beer is filtered through fish bladder, there are animal components in the rubber of my bike tires and the glue in the chair I'm currently sitting in.


But, these bi-products only exist due to the meat and dairy industries. They, as any other business want to maximize profits, and seek to find uses for every excess parts of the animals they murder (we obviously don't need to filter sugar and beer through bladder and bone char.) If people would cease supporting the meat and dairy industries directly, all the bi-products would cease to exist!

Hedgetarians ITT

How do we know Jimmy Hoffa didn't end up as a package of one of those terrible scrambled fake meat products?

The only problem is there are dozens of breakfast cereals that don't use bone char'd sugar. Are you just a Cheerios addict or something? Why not eat Capn' Crunch Peanut Butter Crunch or Life cereal or something else suitable?

How do you decipher whether or not the sugar is bone char'd?

I'm pretty sure you eat it and see if you cry.

carrots are kunt y

I'm sure none of those vegetable farmers ever kill anything in the process of growing you a head of lettuce.

Can not read thread because of amazinmets.

Amazin,

It's as if you're campaigning against being a vegetarian/vegan.

Jeez dude...

Yes, unfortunately it's impossible to feed a population of 6 billion+ without causing harm to the environment and the animals we share it with. But do you think the displacement/accidental death of animals during the harvesting of crops is comparable to the enslavement and pre-mediated murder of trillions of animals annually?

Well, for starters I'd never campaign for anyone to be a vegetarian

By the brand sugar used in the cereal.

BTW, does my Land O Lakes avatar and screen name cause you distress? If you look very closely at her abdominal area, you will see the likeness of Moses parting the Red Sea. I'm guessing this has to do with the book of Genesis, since man was instructed to be vegan before the flood and then the Law of Moses about animals and stuff came about.

That's an elite cereal right there. Reese's also great.

and there you go. The way you talk about it, animals would probably be better off if you would just eat them and shut up.

Why not go straight fruitarian?

I humbly offer my support and gratitude towards vegetarians, as a vegan.

The reason being that progress is much easier made with small steps. I myself did not go radical, I went vegetarian first for a while, then completely vegan.

Maybe others want to go vegetarian, but feel they can't live without meat. Guess what? I'm ok with that too. I'm ok with someone just taking small steps, maybe eating one less meal with meat per week than they normally do. That's all. Just cutting it out of your diet for one meal this week. If everyone did that it would reduce animal suffering by the millions.

If you are against animal suffering, you should feel the same as me, and not be angered towards vegetarians or even meat-eaters. The thing is, everyone has to come to the right conclusion on their own. You can't force it upon them, people are naturally resistant to anything you force on them.

Rome wasn't built in a day, and change is very tough. However this is one change you'll be thrilled to make.

I feel so great every day, especially after eating, which is the most important thing.

And I feel awesome...correction, I am awesome for not hurting animals and not contributing to the destruction of our environment. I, for one, have younger relatives who I would like to see grow up without being surrounded by pollution.

We vegans have a responsibility to try to help others come around to our way of thinking. We are leaders of a new generation of humanity that emphasizes empathy, for all other creatures on this planet, above everything.

Are bees the only insects who get special protections or are all insect lives and products also off limits where practicable?

Do you guys avoid microbrews clarified with isinglass?