[QUOTE=killer_kill;41481773]So what's the big deal about this? Can't your kitchen reasonably time their fires for tickets? Where do you work?





It wasn't a problem, just irritating

A large portion of dealers just stack off their tips on draw after they get off work, so yeah, they probably do need it more than the guy toking.

I really think that everyone is projecting the bad attitude of the minority of tipped service industry employees onto all the others...

I wasn't referring to dealers. We were talking about wait staff. You are correct though, a lot of dealers have gambling problems.

As has been mentioned, the restaurant tipping standard in the US 40 or 50 years ago was 10% for good service and 15% for excellent service. According to many servers today, 20% is the standard for adequate service. Should I expect 30% to be the minimum 20 or 30 years from now?

My problem is that no one has ever explained to me neither a) how this happened, or b) why it should have / needed to happen. If there's a justification other than greed and entitlement, I'd really like to hear it.

just teeing this up for you: things cost more now!

Right, but food costs more now too, and I'll assume that the base wage for servers has gone up I the last 50 years as well.

What's the standard for tipping concierge/doormen people in a full service building? I've only lived here for 6 months if that matters, also in NYC if that matters. There are only 2 guys I actually give a **** whether or not they hate me and actually seem to do anything for me if that matters.

Most servers make between $2-4 base wage.

Tips on holidays or something.

I guess this is off topic, but how do you guys feel about companies that actively solicit donations when you're paying? For instance, after the Boston Marathon bombing DD's in MA were asking every customer if they wanted to donate $1 to Boston Strong. Another example is Irving Gas periodically asks if you would like to donate your change to some charity.

I usually ask if company is making a matching donation, and if not then I typically decline to contribute. I figure they are using their customer's money to garner good publicity and goodwill for themselves while doing nothing more than collecting. Sometimes I wonder if I'm just being an ******* though since there is some benefit for companies like this to be in a position to quickly collect funds for an emergency.

This might be tacky, but what would you guys think about, instead of a tip line for the customer to fill out, there was a "how was the service this evening?" question with service charges corresponding to the answer; very poor service might be 10%, poor 12%, average 15%, good 18%, very good 20% with a blank for extraordinary service. I feel like the majority of bad tippers, contrary to the few people in this thread who deviate knowingly, just don't know what is customary, and this would guard against that.

How many people total do you need to tip? Is this a rental or do you own?

For the guys you like, $125 each is probably good, although that number can vary from $100-$200 depending on the building.

i obv meant for christmas

damn, i was thinking more like $60 or something given that I've only been here since July. There are like 3 main guys and 3 part timers who are really porters but sit at the front every once in a while. It's a rental.

PC,

I know people who have tipped $50 and people who have tipped $500 per doorman in NYC. $100-200 per guy seems typical for the type of nice place I imagine you live in.

Numbers quoted here seem reasonable:

http://www.brickunderground.com/blog..._tipping_guide

Before this one starts a fight about what is "standard": it definitely matters that you're in New York City, where attitudes and expectations about tipping others besides restaurant servers are wildly different from everywhere else in the country (with the possible expectation of Miami and Las Vegas, I guess). I'll let the New Yorkers take the actual question; I'm just pointing out that the opinion of someone who lives elsewhere is particularly inapposite on this one.

I like this idea.

Seems reasonable, although it should be suggested tip.

Would be pretty good for the owners too in evaluating the servers.

Wu,

I think that's reasonable and have actually seen something similar at a couple places here with lots of foreign tourist customers.

OK going to try to explain one more time to you:

You are in a restaurant. You believe you need to tip your server well because they need the money more than you.

You leave said restaurant and go to work as a dealer. 2 hours later the SAME server sits at your table. Now you expect them to tip you well because now you need the money more than them (according to your reasoning)

What has changed in that 2 hour period that warrants such a role reversal?

Depends on state I think. For example I think California is 8 minimum.

I am officially giving up arguing with fuluck

Thanks for the link, seems in line with other stuff I've seen online which is basically that it varies quite a bit.

You should find out how much other people in your building are tipping so you don't tip too little and have your door held half-assedly.