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Because tax is levied on your whole transaction. So if you buy multiple items the tax will be different than if you bought each item separately. In edge cases this could be up to 90+% savings on the tax.

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10-27-2015 , 08:46 AM

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Bloobird

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Can confirm as a Euro that America not including taxes in prices is probably the #1 most tilting thing about visiting the country. Maybe tied with tipping.

Just tell me the actual number of dollars I have to give you to get a thing and so the guy serving me can afford to live.

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10-27-2015 , 08:47 AM

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Bloobird

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Originally Posted by Didace

It would piss me off if the tax was included. I want to see, and be aware of each time, how much the government is taking on the transaction. Without looking it up, how much is the state and federal tax on a gallon of gas? The answer might surprise you.

Just break it out separately on the receipt if it matters that much to you (as done in every other country ever).

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10-27-2015 , 08:50 AM

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My wife and I went out for dinner with my buddy and his then gf. She was a stupid, stupid woman.

Anyways, bill comes, she grabs it to take a look and then says "it's a good then they don't tax each item individually"

And me not being a person to leave things alone replies "what do you mean?"

She said "well thinks about how big the bill would be if they taxed each item individually instead of all together at the end"

I just nodded slowly, and then we left.

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10-27-2015 , 09:00 AM

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Andro

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Originally Posted by Bloobird

This.

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10-27-2015 , 09:04 AM

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Roonil Wazlib

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Originally Posted by Bremen

The distributive property of multiplication would like to have a word with you.

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10-27-2015 , 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by problemeliminator

Your beef should be with the stores not including sales tax in the price. For example the price at the gas pump is the price you pay, because they're required to include it.

Gas pump prices still including the 9/10 of a cent on the price! What up with that?

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10-27-2015 , 09:09 AM

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I guess I have to clarify my post. This applies to Pennsylvania, I don't know how other states do it.

If you buy an item for 1 cent there is 1 cent of tax. So if you do that 100 times you have spent $2.

But if you buy one hundred one cent items in a single transaction you only pay $1.06.

So what do you want the store to put on the price tag?

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10-27-2015 , 09:11 AM

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Bloobird

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what the hell can you buy for 1 cent?

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10-27-2015 , 09:16 AM

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Yakmelk

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Around 60% of what I pay for gas is tax so how about you guys take a chill pill, 0,95 cents of the price per liter (1,55) goes to the gubernment. That's 6,50 $ (5,89 euro) a gallon of which 3,90 goes to taxes. All our taxes are included in the price so you have no idea what you're paying until you look it up.

Last edited by Yakmelk; 10-27-2015 at 09:16 AM. Reason: Euro gasprice rant

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10-27-2015 , 09:25 AM

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Unless the sales tax rate in Pennsylvania is >50% I don't see how that's possible.

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10-27-2015 , 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by EfromPegTown

She said "well thinks about how big the bill would be if they taxed each item individually instead of all together at the end"

I just nodded slowly, and then we left.

I like this one. I work with a woman who is nice as hell but similar to her I believe. A few months ago I took a day off. The next day she asked if I was sick and I replied "no, I needed a mental health day". She asked excitedly how many of those we got a year, and if they had been added to the employee handbook yet.

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10-27-2015 , 09:31 AM

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Roonil Wazlib

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I worked with a guy who thought you could use long-term medical disability for when you catch a cold.

He was over the age of 30.

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10-27-2015 , 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bremen

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10-27-2015 , 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by EfromPegTown

Unless the sales tax rate in Pennsylvania is >50% I don't see how that's possible.

For items that cost a penny it is 100%.

Since the system was setup before calculators there is a chart somewhere (that I can't find online

) that tells merchants how much to charge. Obv they tended to round to their advantage.

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10-27-2015 , 09:47 AM

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Only works in Superman 3.

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10-27-2015 , 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by W0X0F

Gas pump prices still including the 9/10 of a cent on the price! What up with that?

I thought in like one state it was illegal. Obviously should be. And for didace they can advertise the pretax cost.

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Originally Posted by Bremen

For items that cost a penny it is 100%.

Since the system was setup before calculators there is a chart somewhere (that I can't find online

) that tells merchants how much to charge. Obv they tended to round to their advantage.

Good thing nothing costs a penny.

Why is it to stores advantage to round up sales tax? Do they get to write it off on their corporate taxes.

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10-27-2015 , 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by problemeliminator

Why is it to stores advantage to round up sales tax? Do they get to write it off on their corporate taxes.

it's not their choice... the government is being governmental and robbing people a fraction of a penny one transaction at a time

not sure if its just a pennsylvania thing

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10-27-2015 , 10:00 AM

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When I was a kid, I used to go to the store with a dollar and individually purchase 20 5cent candies to avoid tax

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10-27-2015 , 10:45 AM

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DKGO, sorry, bremen's poor grammar confused me.

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10-27-2015 , 10:53 AM

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Re: no problem/you're welcome

As a server I use both of these depending on the situation. For example, when someone is gluten free with a shellfish/other random allergy and realize it's ridiculous for them to be in a seafood restuarant I use "no problem" (just an example).

"I understand I'm in a seafood restuarant but thank you for taking the time to make sure the food won't kill me."

"No problem, ma'am. Is everything going well with your meal so far?"

I mean I just made that up, but is that an appropriate "no problem"?

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10-27-2015 , 11:15 AM

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W0X0F

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Sounds like a perfect place for it, but you might want to elaborate: "No problem, ma'am. Saving lives is what I do. I don't throw the word 'hero' around lightly but, yes, I guess I'm a hero."

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10-27-2015 , 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by EfromPegTown

She said "well thinks about how big the bill would be if they taxed each item individually instead of all together at the end"

I just nodded slowly, and then we left.

You sure she wasn't referring to the physical size of the bill? If the bill were itemized+taxes it would indeed have been a big bill.