thats like arguing that your **** doesnt smell as bad as someone elses.

I haven't seen anyone mention the option of simply calling the person texting you, it's certainly much safer, and I think that I know the reason why. The few ppl that I text w/ (exception leo doc) apparently don't like phone calls. The times that I've gotten texts while driving and called instead they were clearly uncomfortable. That might make a good thread on its' own. 'Text v. Call' what's your preferance?

No problem at all with demanding he stop. Texting while driving is really dangerous. As someone else said - I tried it once and realized how ****ing stupid and dangerous it was and never did it again.

The long-term solution is to not depend on others and get your own car. But you still will have to deal with other idiot drivers hitting you.

Anytime I see some girl with her head straight down texting while driving I want to lay on the horn to wake her the **** up and scare her. But I've never done it, as I assume she'll swerve and crash which defeats the purpose. Will have to find another way to save the world from itself.

I said drunk driving is dangerous for everyone because the physical effects of alcohol make it impossible to drive safely while hammered and that those physical effects aren't present wrt texting. Which means the danger in text-driving has something to do with one's mental state and general awareness on the road. So say you receive a text at some crazy-ass rotary...the bad text driver checks the text right then and there while also trying to traverse this difficult stretch, the good one waits for a straight, familiar road.

uh, pretty sure the physical effects of not watching the road and focusing your attention on your cell phone make it impossible to drive safely as well. So what if you are better at it than someone who does it at the worst possible times, its still unsafe.

Lol I don't have time or patience right now to express my full disdain at some of the posters high-level ******ation (or structure anything i say properly) but good god man, i had a long tirade planned in my head but im gonna have to cut it into this mini tirade because you just crossed the line

Also Wild will what ****ing planet are you on . lol at "principled". are you real? Should we assign a positive connotation to texting and driving? Perhaps start a "texting while driving is good, but in moderation, and only if it's to a hot girl" campaign?

It's amazing that just like in the Drunk-Driving HSNL debate where the hidden host of drunk drivers suddenly appeared to blindly defend their actions, there is a horde of self-unaware text-drivers who just choose to ignore the fact that they put others lives at risk so they can text some stupid ****** whatever moronic thought is in their head(cant even wait til they're at a red light) . I mean if you took a sample size of texts that are sent while driving how many of them do you think would be necessary (people are arguing that texting is an important "everyday activity")? Even by the people who are "REALLY GOOD AT TEXT DRIVING"? Or do the guys who are really good text even more because they've mastered the art so thoroughly?

Taking a special moment here too for my largest most mocking laugh for the people who look at the stats and are like "well ummmmmMMMM DA TEST DIDNT ACCOUNT FOR DA PPL WHO DONT LOOK AT DEY PHON WHILE DEY TEXT AND I MEAN IM A MIDDLE AGE MAN AND DA TEST INCLUD SOME PPL WHO NOT MIDLE AGE MAN SO LIKE Y WOULD DAT TEST HAVE ANY STATISTIKUL VALIDIDTY?" I mean really now.

Yeah, my english sucks, sorry. Alobar and Atakdog seem to be killing every point anyway.

If you are trying to make an argument about people's relative abilities of driving while texting, you're pretty transparently an ******* who texts while he drives and should knock it the **** off. It's pretty damn binary. If you do it, then you're putting people at risk.

But if I'm in another car around you and I'm not cool with it because you are endangering my life... **** me?

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Huh? I was commenting on the comparison between driving intoxicated and texting. I wasn't denying that I've done either, or accusing anyone else.

I literally admitted to it 2 posts before.

You said it was something we are "probably all guilty of".

I also think your comparison was rather poorly made, and feel like it is generally satisfying the fact that you do text and drive, but don't drink and drive. That's how I read into it, anyway. I suppose I'm getting unnecessarily hostile, heh...

Weird, either I made my point poorly, or you just swung and missed horrendously at understanding it.

Yes, I think a vast majority of people itt are guilty of texting and driving at some point - would you disagree?. If you want to nit it up and say I shouldnt say the absolute of "everyone" thats your thing, but its a waste of time.

I never said I don't or haven't drank and drove, just that I would judge someone more harshly who drives extremely drunk than someone who texts. I qualified the statement by saying they are both bad decisions, which you somehow interpreted as me being both sanctimonious and deceitful at once.

As far as my own personal behavior, like I said, I try to limit my texting in the car to when I am at a red light or in heavy traffic, and, while I used to, I do not drink and drive, ever, anymore.

I think the point txdome is trying to make is that alcohol goes straight in your blood and everyone has blood, whereas texting affects you mentally and not everyone has a brain.

I 24 tabled Omaha of course I can text and drive while listening to heavy metal on headphones. Never been close to getting in an accident in my life.

We can definitely agree that doing it is putting people more at risk then not doing it. Some of us are just saying there are places and methods of texting that aren't any more dangerous then things that wouldn't be vilified by people itt, imo.

If you're a conscientious enough person that you never drive tired, distracted, spacey, etc., that's awesome. I know I try and avoid such things but when I'm honest with myself there's plenty of times I wasn't driving with my full focus on the road.

Whatever, this is a silly argument. Most everyone agrees texting while driving is dangerous and it's likely more dangerous then we realize. It's 100% acceptable as a passenger to ask a driver not to text and any driver that doesn't apologize and stop is a giant douchebag.

edit. I've only drank and drove one time. I had 2 beer (that's actually significant for me, I'm buzzing when I finish 1 ) and ordered a pizza. Realized I had no money and they didn't have debit at the door so I jumped in the car to run to the atm. When I got there I felt a little lightheaded and remembered about the beers, oops. :P

I drove high quite a few times when I was younger, though.

Good point. Also sort of branching out: when I stay at a friend's place for a few days I might sometimes make the bed and other times I might not. If one of the members of the household digs for my dirty clothes and does my laundry I consider that to be a really nice gesture but also kind of weird.

I understand why it happens but I hate when someone is driving under the limit but then speeds up in a passing zone. Have some self-awareness/consideration people. Just because the road is now straight and you're comfortable is no reason to speed up and make the rest of us stay behind you when the turns come back and ya get scurrred.

Also, tailgaiting. My god, what a useless, dangerous habit.

What's the big deal about texting and driving? This very post i

Thank god he had the curtesy to hit send.

Of course some people can drive better than other people, even while distracted. I personally prefer for the airhead 17 year old and the 85 year old granny to be the outliers, and not the level we should all aim for.

This is really the important point to be made itt. I'm not on any side suggesting otherwise.

I'm just arguing there's degrees to bad driving. Whether it's overall skill or level of distractions.

Considering I believe almost everyone drives with some level of distraction some of the time, degree is very relevant.

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sitting on the railroad tracks and masturbating during the day time is dangerous, but not nearly as dangerous as doing it at night so it's ok to do and you guys are wrong for criticising me.

I feel like people are being obtuse.

Obviously degree doesn't matter within the same activity. It only becomes relevant when compared to other unsafe behaviors.

Let's use numbers!

Let's say drive texting ranges from 3-8 on the driver safety scale (1-10, 10 being most unsafe, ldo). If the vast majority of drivers will occassionally engage in behavior up to 3 or 4 then it's hypocritical to treat all instances of texting the same. It's fairly nitty but this is an Internet forum...

It's debatable whether the safest forms of texting are in fact no more dangerous then other common minor offenses but that's not the context most seem to be arguing in.

Actually, driving while tired is the perfect comparison.

There's a huge spectrum of danger with driving tired. >50% of cars on the road before 8am probably have drivers that are tired enough to be considered at optimal focus levels (which is the whole basis of arguing against the texters who would never keep there eyes off the road for more then a second and never before assuring the road was safe ahead, much like most who adjust the radio dial,a/c, etc). We go right from slightly under optimal focus right up to falling the **** asleep. We can all agree that it doesn't matter how important the destination is falling asleep at the wheel is as unsafe as you can get.

Again, whether the safest texting is comparable to moderate tiredness is up for debate.