The real life jigsaw. Forgwt his name, but the dude had a home made torture room and played cassette tapes with his voice and killed like an unknown number of women

Those Ukrainian guys can't be beat. It's one thing to shoot someone with a gun, but to kill your victims with hammers and pipes is sick. And to tape the killings and then go to the funerals of the victims and laugh is a whole different level of insanity.

They also tried to sell the videos to snuff websites.

Such things exist?

On rare occasion, my curiosity gets the best of me and I'll visit rotten.com or steakandcheese, but I always feel awful afterwards.

they made a crucifix and put a kitten on it. shut the kittens mouth so it would make any noise while they shot at it with pistols. they also gouged a woman's eyes while she was still alive. I mean, those guys were real jerks.

Hi Norm

cant stop reading wikis about serial killers now, lol.

lol but he killed 300+ kids!

One of the best posters of true crime documentaries, Rabbit in Red. (He has many versions, because they are always taking him down.) This is just one of his sites.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6r...L4w02TbGLeOBUw

check out liveleak

my vote is for ted bundy....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port...cre_(Australia)

This is the biggest killing spree in Australian history.

35 killed and 23 wounded, was the reason the gun laws dramatically changed and there has not been a similar incident since this happened in 1996.

They merely claimed this. I reckon they were lying. Two German psychos claimed the same thing several years back after they murdered a prostitute and another escaped, only they claimed they wished to sell a film they'd made of their murder in the US to a buyer for $16,000 and I reckon they were lying also. There's never been any real evidence found of snuff rings, nor has a bona fide snuff film (as is defined) ever been found, despite the FBI investigating the issue for years.

How often do you do this?

The Ukranian dudes were wtf nuts. I could barely even read the wiki. Jfc, the cops must be horrendously incompetent there.

Yea I watched one of their videos. The first time I ever had to stop watching something.

Man I didn't remotely consider looking up one of their videos. I read the wiki page, and a couple articles elsewhere with more details. Seem like the runaway winner in this and I'm not sure I want to know of worse.

I'm reading about this guy possibly getting out due to maximum penalty laws in columbia? crazy. If they let this guy out I would have to go down and kill him personally

I'm sorry but you are just dead wrong here. Chikatilo is significantly worse and sicker than those russian kids. Yes the kids disregard for human life is stunning. Their killings are about power and killing men their own age. Their killings are violent and personal but also for the most part quick and not sexual in nature. They weren't afaik involved in extremely drawn out sadistic torture.

You watched a video of one of the russian kids? I'm assuming the one with the hammer and the orange bag? Absolutely awful and terribly hard to watch, worse even than jihadi beheading vids imo.

But if there was a video of Chikatilo murdering a 9 year old boy or girl you would be literally unable to physical watch it. I'm sure any non psychopath would pretty much vomit or pass out. He would bind the arms and stuff some dirt in a kids mouth after leading them away from the train station into the woods. He would slowly stab and slash them in ways to make it last. enucleate the eyes. cut off the tip of the tongue or bite it off. Also would bite off genitalia and nipples. Intercourse with knife wounds and a living victim. He would then start to stab and cut and eviscerate organs etc. At the moment of death he would take out the tongue hold it over his head and run around the body.

I actually want to advocate for extensive torture as punishment (and to lesser extent deterrent but lets not pretend) for people like this. Your humanity card gets pulled and you are fair game. Don't even have to have a death sentence if you guys are wrongly opposed to it as many are. Bring em within an inch and back till they are old men, death isn't enough. I don't believe in hell but I am all for creating it.

I watched some docus on Chikatilo. He couldn't apparently have normal sex. It was also said that this cannibalistic tendencies could have been caused by his childhood. He was born in a time of big famine in UdSSR and it was said that his older brother was killed and eaten. It was also said that he witnessed the rape of his mother in the second world war by german soldiers.

So he probably had been in Hell.

I do not justify him in any way, but I am very against any torture or death penalty.

As to the OP, I watched one time a docu, with two boys age 13 and 15 have tortured and tried to kill with a hammer a mother of one of him. They had somehow the idea, that then they could take the money and have a good life.

That was for me really bad. I mean this personal connection and the motive for killing and then not shooting but really hitting and kicking her and jumping on her head for hours.

I don't have a link to that. Was in russian and not very famous, because of only one victim.

It's a bit ironic that in a country where extrajudicial killings are not at all uncommon they ban the death penalty and life sentences.

i now know more about serial killers lives then i do my friends, thanks wikipedia

I first read that Wiki article on the two Ukrainian monsters probably 5 or 6 years ago. To this day I can distinctly recall getting the urge to have my soul dry cleaned. WTF is wrong with people?

And +1 to the local law enforcement coming across aa completely inept.

Surprised no one has mentioned Ted Bundy, his spree covers most definitions of sick.

1. Killed over 30 people before finally getting caught and arrested, not for killing, but for the one that got away. Sick.
2. Defended himself in court, and used that to help escape. Sick.
3. After getting caught, he later escaped prison again. Sick.
4. He serial killed some more people. Sick.
5. After getting caught, he turned down a plea bargain that would have avoided the death penalty. Sick.
6. There was only evidence to convict him of the killings AFTER he escaped from prison the second time. The rest he confessed to later.


Also, there's Gary Ridgway, who killed ~45, IQ of 80, and wasn't caught for 17 years.

Also, for a female representative, Elizabeth Bathory. It's back in the 1600s, but she killed hundreds (some accomplices I think), and was eventually locked up in a castle, cause obv that's all they had back then.

Sorry for no links, it's not working for some reason.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Fish

I watched a documentary about him. He was a sick man.

It's probably because of extrajudicial killings, juntas and semi fascist regimes that prison reforms came into play, as during such regimes they could lock you away forever as a political prisoner.
As a result, predators like Garavito and Lopez were able to get more lenient treatment. Afaik, changes were made in the laws again after Garavito but am not certain on this. I do know they're trying to keep him in as long as possible and even if he is released, I reckon he'll last all of 10 minutes on the outside.
As I said earlier I very much doubt if Lopez is still alive and reckon one of those extrajudicial executions came into play as they were escorting him to the border.
Another one that occurred to me is Peter Kurten aka the vampire of Dusseldorf.
If he'd have come along a mere decade later he may well have ended up a concentration camp guard.
Anyhoo he was a sick puppy.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Kurten