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Police in Central California say two family dogs killed a 3-day-old baby after her mother left her on the couch and walked away for a few seconds.

Macias says the two male dogs, which are believed to be a mix of shar-pei and pit bull are owned by the 33-year-old woman's brother.

http://www.fresnobee.com/news/local/...e86313057.html

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06-28-2016 , 11:25 PM

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clearly just bad owners.

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06-28-2016 , 11:31 PM

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Dunno, think we need several hundred billion dollar studies to determine that.

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06-28-2016 , 11:44 PM

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I wonder if jealousy is part of the oh so precious tests that these pitbulls pass at a higher rate than other dogs. These dogs are ****ed in the head. Period. In my experience most dogs are protective of newborns and are sensitive to their precarious position. These dogs see them as a threat.

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06-28-2016 , 11:47 PM

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In my experience most dogs are protective of newborns and are sensitive to their precarious position. These dogs see them as a snack.

fyp

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06-29-2016 , 12:21 AM

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So these owners aren't feeding them either... shocking.

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06-29-2016 , 12:25 AM

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I'm not going to put much stock into the results of an online survey of 869 college students when it comes to attempting to determine the motivations of the owners of 70-80 million dogs.

You can refuse to accept anything you want, but 869 isn't a small sample size and if there're well defined trends observed in college aged dog owners it's likely that you'd find it repeated in the general population. Not something to base policy on but you can still find meaning in the results.

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As far as how to approach it, I think the first step would be to better hold the owners accountable. I really don't know what would be both fair and impactful, but until owners are made to feel responsible for their dog's behavior, not much will change with respect to bad owners and bad pets. I mean, it just blows my mind that somebody can see their dog bite another person unprovoked and not feel that the dog has to be put down.

There should be mandatory insurance for the same reason that car insurance is mandatory, and taxes that cover potential incidental damages to people/property where the dog runs away after, and the victim can't make a claim. If people can prove they've trained it well and are responsible then they get a rebate on their insurance rates and taxes.

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06-29-2016 , 12:41 AM

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So these owners aren't feeding them either... shocking.

Havn't fed my dogs for 7 days....!

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07-11-2016 , 02:41 PM

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Saw this gif on reddit, thought of this thread. Didn't read reddit comments ldo but I assume there's a debate over the wisdom of this.

Spoiler:

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07-11-2016 , 02:58 PM

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Girl I know from college and her boyfriend (ex-con/druggie, shocker) got a rescue pit this weekend. This was part of her Facebook post about it:

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She's still really dog aggressive but great with people and kids!

:eyeroll:

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07-11-2016 , 03:54 PM

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Saw this gif on reddit, thought of this thread. Didn't read reddit comments ldo but I assume there's a debate over the wisdom of this.

That white dog is probably the one that's going to snap and tear the kid apart. The other dogs are being submissive to the baby.

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07-11-2016 , 05:14 PM

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Even if somebody just knocks on the door that kid is getting banged up.

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07-11-2016 , 05:51 PM

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That gif holy f***.

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07-11-2016 , 05:53 PM

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if they want to endanger their own **** producing kids, let that dog rip their kid to pieces. In their house.

its when these dogs are in public areas, especially un-leashed. they shouldnt even be allowed period but lol america.

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07-11-2016 , 08:18 PM

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I'm not here to defend pits been there done that but why is no one going after the shar pei which is ultra aggressive in this 3 day infant death? It was a mix. That's hella type of blood to be mixing.

You want to be consistent with your crusade then be consistent.

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07-11-2016 , 10:36 PM

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Do you think parents should be able to deny their kids vaccinations?

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07-11-2016 , 10:39 PM

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Do you think parents should be able to deny their kids vaccinations?

Sure, so long as their kid doesn't go to public school. The trouble with vaccinations is that it permits the spread of diseases that hurt others. Everyone rational agrees that the parents of the poor kid above are idiots, but you're never going to legislate idiocy out of existence.

If this starts a politard, I'll STFU.

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07-11-2016 , 11:24 PM

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grunching, but

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Caesar Milan is one of my heroes

did this get explained somewhere in the thread?

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07-12-2016 , 09:37 PM

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I just think he's an awesome dude.

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07-12-2016 , 10:27 PM

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We'll probably have to drop this line of argument, but I don't think parents have that right. Denying your kid fits the defintion of child endangerment (in regular English, I'm sure not legally).

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07-12-2016 , 11:37 PM

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Point taken, although I do not think child services would have the right to show up at your house if shown that picture, esp if the dogs had no prior bite history. We agree that the parents' judgment sucks.

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07-21-2016 , 03:02 PM

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My company newsletter came out with the teaser headline, "Local tech saves boy from dog attack". Let's go see what's in the article:

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Chris XXX, customer services specialist, played two roles last Wednesday while on a service call in a rural area southeast of Ann Arbor, Michigan.

"I'm also a firefighter," said Chris. "I keep my radio pager on all day to get around traffic. On that job, I heard the local fire department dispatched. Then they said it was a 10-year-old bit by dog with possible arm amputation – and it was less than a quarter mile away from me. I was afraid for the kid."

Having children of his own, Chris jumped in his truck and raced to the address. He found a neighbor who told him where the child was. He then made a point to ensure the dog was secure in the house.

"I was surprised the child was conscious," Chris said. "It was a vicious attack – the worst I have seen in 20 years as a firefighter. He had bites on his face, ear and arm and broken bones. He had lost a lot of blood."

Chris went to work to control the bleeding. Using his fire department-issued two-way radio, he relayed the victim's status and details of his wounds to first responders. He gave them the information they needed to be able to transport the child to the hospital as soon as they arrived.

He also kept the child distracted.

"Initially, he kept saying my dog bit me," said Chris. "I tried to get his mind off of the event and to concentrate on his breathing. He was a tough little kid."

Chris learned that the boy had been home alone when his dog attacked him. When the dog finally let go, the boy got out of the house, walked 150 feet to the neighbor's house, knocked on the door and collapsed. The neighbor found the boy and called 911.

Let us all take a wild guess what breed this was. The comments of course are standard and depressing.

Wow, some really good anti-pit comments from doctors and such on this one: http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/...es_week_a.html

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07-21-2016 , 03:26 PM

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Those numbers in that last link are staggering, but you can't reason with stupid.

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07-21-2016 , 03:29 PM

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07-22-2016 , 12:50 PM

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Here's a question that no one is able to answer: If you don't vaccinate your child, what are the chances of your child dying of a vaccine preventable disease in the United States?

Pretty damn low, because all of the other children are vaccinated.

How about this question instead: If nobody vaccinates their child, what are the chances of your child dying of a vaccine preventable disease in the United States?

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