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Should pit bull owners be allowed to breed? Should pit bull owners be allowed to breed?
View Poll Results: Should pitbulls be allowed to breed
Yes
391 46.83%
No
290 34.73%
Yes but only if you have to have a special license to own one
154 18.44%

06-14-2023 , 03:53 AM
hm


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Originally Posted by Phresh
kettle-fishing

um

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Originally Posted by 6ix
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Can anybody sane try and summarize what this 6ix moron thinks he tapped me with?...
Um, not a joke, can you tell me what you mean by "tapped (you) with" in this context? I'm not entirely sure tbh..
uh

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Originally Posted by 6ix
That can also double as a litmus test for whether he can successfully exchange ideas and information, a necessary skill when discussing and debating and even just conversing.

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06-14-2023 , 04:21 AM
I don't know how to save the best for last because they're all "the best".


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Originally Posted by Phresh
Imagine in the year 2030, attitudes like yours have resulted in Earth having just as many pits as humans.

"Yes, you have a 30% chance of being mauled to death on your daily walk. But without exact stats on how many pits there are and how many attacks happened, we just can't say if this is negative or not? Plus, who can really even know what a pitbull is anyway?"

Without exact stat on how many pits there are and how many attacks happened, we couldn't say there are "just as many pits as humans" and more importantly that you "have a 30% chance of being mauled to death on your daily walk."

That's literally the entire point.
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06-14-2023 , 05:45 AM
You happy, Trolly?
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06-14-2023 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
You happy, Trolly?
We could have a whole separate thread picking that one apart, right?
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06-14-2023 , 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 6ix
The absolutely most bizarre part of all this is this joke/insult/whatev. Even after I explained it, just, nothing.

All my friends who agree with me and are "cheering me on" could be from r/iLOVEpitbulls or somewhere like that! And then somebody might say, "Well yeah but they're all biased." And I'd reply, "Yeah no **** that's my entire point you dumb ****."
It is not that we question where your invisible friends come from. We question that they exist.
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06-14-2023 , 07:35 AM
Lol I keep noticing new stuff.

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Originally Posted by Phresh

You have no clue how long it takes to breed out the fighting characteristics. And trying to do that, instead of simply not breeding the fighting dog anymore, is idiotic. Listening to 2 complete losers discuss that is hilarious, though. You guys don't even understand/agree these traits were bred into them in the first place.
Wait how long does it take to breed out the fighting characteristics? Lots longer than breeding them in? I bet it's like a zillion times longer.
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06-14-2023 , 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Einstein2

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The absolutely most bizarre part of all this is this joke/insult/whatev. Even after I explained it, just, nothing.

All my friends who agree with me and are "cheering me on" could be from r/iLOVEpitbulls or somewhere like that! And then somebody might say, "Well yeah but they're all biased." And I'd reply, "Yeah no **** that's my entire point you dumb ****."
It is not that we question where your invisible friends come from. We question that they exist.
Imagine putting somebody as stupid as you in charge of jailing black boys.

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06-14-2023 , 08:05 AM
Ok, this one I actually do have some sympathy for:

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I am still in disbelief you've been on a poker forum so long and your analysis on everything is so trash. You'd be leaving loaded guns on the nightstand or your kids like, "Well, an 'assault rifle' isn't really well-defined and who knows exactly how many kids get shot like this?"

I think you're having some genuine confusion because this analogy only works if you're the side saying assault rifles are not really well-defined and who knows exactly how many kids get shot like this. I'm saying "ban guns" and you're saying "ban 9mm semi-automatic pistols cuz they're used the most in crimes" which, spelling it out like that, I'd assume it's easy to see how ridiculous your stance is.

But analogies are hard I've learned. This one really tripped up KingOfFelt (He's actually dumber than you but less neurotic if you're keeping track of that).










See what happened there? Because I didn't literally specify every way the guns were similar and instead ended with "and what not" he got confused and then compared two types of guns that were very different in one important function. He's real real dumb.
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06-14-2023 , 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
You happy, Trolly?
Yeah, actually. Good books and plenty of physical activity are key, gotta get regular exercise. How are you doing?


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I really hope that you just collect the data and arent responsible for analyzing it. or even reading a full sentence.
I actually am not as critical of the self-reported study as phresh, it probably captures a lot of useful stuff, but aggression sure isn't one of them. How many pit owners are going to be honest about that? Like, "oh, he was a perfect angel up until this one incident" is what they say in every dog-eats-toddler story.

But to your point, yes 9% heritability seems awfully high.
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06-14-2023 , 08:37 AM
That was a certified 13 banger.
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06-14-2023 , 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
That was a certified 13 banger.
I'm glad that you and I are here to witness it together, old friend.
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06-14-2023 , 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
But to your point, yes 9% heritability seems awfully high.
Then if 1 out of 1000 pit bulls were involved in dog fighting would you expect the general population to retain this trait? Or maybe the next phrase after the one you bolded ("but behavior only subtly differentiates breeds.") was accurate as well. If aggression is abnormally heritable, would you expect the vast vast vast vast majority of pits which are quite removed from any program to create better fighting dogs to retain that level of aggression?
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06-14-2023 , 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
I'm glad that you and I are here to witness it together, old friend.
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06-14-2023 , 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Then if 1 out of 1000 pit bulls were involved in dog fighting would you expect the general population to retain this trait?
Without a big selection pressure to reverse it, who knows? But we don't have to speculate on this, we can just take a look at the numbers and see an astonishing agreement between the breeds bred for fighting and the breeds that will run across the street to maul someone's kid. I just don't see the argument for letting people make more of these dogs when there are so many other breeds that don't seem to be a huge problem.
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06-14-2023 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
That was a certified 13 banger.
Would you be interested to know that it was me who came up with the "certified x-banger" and "combo breaker" and what not to describe my own posting, years back?

Would you be interested in anything? (aside from the perhaps the most pathetic attempt at outgrouping and othering I've ever seen)

I can requote the relevant posts of our discussion or I can just leave you to whatever it is you're doing.
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06-14-2023 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Without a big selection pressure to reverse it, who knows? But we don't have to speculate on this, we can just take a look at the numbers and see an astonishing agreement between the breeds bred for fighting and the breeds that will run across the street to maul someone's kid. I just don't see the argument for letting people make more of these dogs when there are so many other breeds that don't seem to be a huge problem.
a PhD

a PhD in SCIENCE
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06-14-2023 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99

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I'm glad that you and I are here to witness it together, old friend.
lol there's something beautiful happening alright

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Originally Posted by 6ix
Somebody tell Trolly that I'll donate to the charity of his choice if he can articulate the moving parts of his insult. Like, a short essay/long paragraph.

Basically, the following wouldn't qualify:

"Trolly, can you articulate the moving parts of your insult about making multiple short posts in a row?"

"uh derr its a buncha posts in a row!"
the seamless transition from "they trickle in here and get DeStRoYeD!!!" to this whatever **** this is might qualify
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06-14-2023 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 6ix
Would you be interested to know that it was me who came up with the "certified x-banger" and "combo breaker" and what not to describe my own posting, years back?

Would you be interested in anything? (aside from the perhaps the most pathetic attempt at outgrouping and othering I've ever seen)

I can requote the relevant posts of our discussion or I can just leave you to whatever it is you're doing.
Tell me everything.
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06-14-2023 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
Tell me everything.
Aw sheeit I might've bit off more than I can chew for right now, because that would require a whole epic backstory about various posters in PoliticsUnchained and its various iterations.

I will say though that you've been hitching your wagon to some rough stars:




I mean, imagine what it would take for a person to end up interacting with the world like that, right?

“I agree with you 99% of the time but this 1% gave me no pause or moment of reflection and indeed I found it normal and impersonal to mock you and insult you and cheer on the people banning you over this 1%”

Lol before this exposure to weaponized 2p2 autism I wouldn't have even thought that possible.
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06-14-2023 , 07:08 PM
Since I've got you on the line though,

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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
Tell me everything.
you alluded to Babs and much like your lack of exposure to the Politics forum and subforums, I lack exposure to that whole thing. I could tell you that TBAB stands for The Bay Area Beast and that he is "a thief and a scammer" but beyond those incredibly broad strokes, not much else.

What is that thread like? I assume he's probably banned now but was in the thread interacting with people previously.
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06-14-2023 , 07:26 PM
hm





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06-14-2023 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
Tell me everything.
lol, this guy thinks he invented the concept of combo breaking, incredible tapioca-brained ****.
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06-14-2023 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
lol, this guy thinks he invented the concept of combo breaking, incredible tapioca-brained ****.
Yes Trolly, my brain is made of pudding.
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06-14-2023 , 10:20 PM
I'll try to tie two ideas together in one post, even though that's not really my style:

This,

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I mean, imagine what it would take for a person to end up interacting with the world like that, right?
was a PM!

Otherwise I don't think we would've seen even that level of honesty.

Trolly was dubbed Awkward OK Guy from this sketch:



Which is why this,

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
lol, this guy thinks he invented the concept of combo breaking, incredible tapioca-brained ****.
is so shocking!

I legit didn't even know the thing was capable of real human emotion. This is why I don't use "lol u mad" as some sort of snarky jab. I think it's good and healthy to get mad about things from time to time!

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06-14-2023 , 10:55 PM
Well Trolly, since you're braving the waters of Words That Get You Mad,

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Without a big selection pressure to reverse it, who knows? But we don't have to speculate on this, we can just take a look at the numbers and see an astonishing agreement between the breeds bred for fighting and the breeds that will run across the street to maul someone's kid. I just don't see the argument for letting people make more of these dogs when there are so many other breeds that don't seem to be a huge problem.
1. I know.

2. You do have to speculate.

3. Because you don't know the numbers.

4. Because you don't even have a definition for "these dogs" much less everything else even though you're allowed to just make up whatever definition you want.

5. Because you got your degrees by a series of blowjobs.


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