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Should pit bull owners be allowed to breed? Should pit bull owners be allowed to breed?
View Poll Results: Should pitbulls be allowed to breed
Yes
392 46.83%
No
290 34.65%
Yes but only if you have to have a special license to own one
155 18.52%

06-13-2023 , 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
They probably have tests and stuff to select dogs for different traits. Then they breed two dogs with the traits they want. I really shouldn't be talking about this though.
Can you believe I actually felt bad after this post, like, maybe I shouldn't have clowned you so hard?

I was going to reply that yeah, the first step seems obvious, but I was more looking for a point A to Z explanation and as you see from Phresh's posts, he hasn't thought that part through and literally can't. But, you disappointed me son.

1. breed two dogs

2. ???

3. profit!

Remember that meme joke? It was a meme joke for a reason.
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06-13-2023 , 10:42 PM
You clowned me hard?
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06-13-2023 , 10:44 PM
You're forgiven but I still don't see what point you're making.
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06-13-2023 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Phresh
I can't understand someone taking more than an hour to realize how much sense that explanation makes over the litany of hurdles.
That might be because you're real stupid. Just one hypothesis though. Science!



More anecdotes I see. My man is just horny for the anecdotes.

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Just your standard canine behavior. What dog breed isn't notorious for breaking into other folks' property to maul children playing on a swing? Oh, crap, I forgot.
Yeah, they used to breed them like that, to see which puppies could pick locks and open gates.
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06-13-2023 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
You clowned me hard?
I don't know if I did objectively. I didn't feel like I did at the time. I just speculated after the fact based on the tone of your reply.



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You're forgiven but I still don't see what point you're making.

My point is that "you" can't construct an idea that starts with "some old timey dudes have some aggressive dogs make puppies on purpose" and leads to "tens of millions of dogs running all over, who were clearly not selectively bred for anything, but also somehow have some distinct genetic connection to those old timey dogs" and have it maintain even any internal logic.

1. Breed two dogs

2. A wizard did it! (???)

3. Phresh masturbates to r/banpitbulls
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06-13-2023 , 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Seems like that kind of gives the game away.
I really hope that you just collect the data and arent responsible for analyzing it. or even reading a full sentence.
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06-14-2023 , 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 6ix













My point is that "you" can't construct an idea that starts with "some old timey dudes have some aggressive dogs make puppies on purpose" and leads to "tens of millions of dogs running all over, who were clearly not selectively bred for anything, but also somehow have some distinct genetic connection to those old timey dogs" and have it maintain even any internal logic.
Do you think this is coherent?
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06-14-2023 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
Do you think this is coherent?
Since pit bulls aren't even well defined and you really can't get stats on how many fighting dogs there are, it's fuzzy, but I believe his point is related to how there are something like 1000 times as many pit bulls as there are actual fighting dogs. And he's suggesting that, by and large, pit bulls are not being bred as fighting dogs (even if fighting dogs are bred and most of them are pit bulls).
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06-14-2023 , 12:47 AM
Oh man this is just getting unseemly now.

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Originally Posted by Phresh
...Oh, crap, I forgot. There IS no such thing as a pitbull, whoops. I guess we can all go home now!




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Originally Posted by 6ix
... What still astounds me is how the anti-pit-bull people don't even seem to grasp the argument of defining a "pit bull". It literally does not matter how you define it. Go with what the AKC has registered or go the opposite and do a one-drop-rule, it doesn't matter. The only difference is that the refutation of the "arguments" will be slightly different depending on which definition is settled upon. As one of many ironies, these people are actually the ones closer to screeching about how it's impossible to define a pit bull, as that would open them up to taking an actual refutable stance.
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[I]A "pit bull" is not a breed! The majority of dogs are not breeds! This doesn't mean we can't define what a pit bull is (in fact that makes it easier!) .
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You can't seem to define what a "pit bull" is and, like I said earlier, you guys have this habit of preemptively assuming that's the opening to a debate when it's really just basic logic. Provide any definition you want. Do the one-drop-rule, go nuts. A bunch of DoggyDNA tests and we're good to go.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule

It seems that the reason you guys shy away from a definition is because you don't want a rebuttal, you just want your feelings to be correct.

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06-14-2023 , 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
Do you think this is coherent?
Yes. It's middle school English at most. If there are parts you don't understand then you only have to ask and I can try to reiterate them in a way you can understand.
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06-14-2023 , 12:56 AM
It’s certainly middle school-ish.
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06-14-2023 , 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Since pit bulls aren't even well defined and you really can't get stats on how many fighting dogs there are, it's fuzzy, but I believe his point is related to how there are something like 1000 times as many pit bulls as there are actual fighting dogs. And he's suggesting that, by and large, pit bulls are not being bred as fighting dogs (even if fighting dogs are bred and most of them are pit bulls).
Yes, we all get it, dude. None of you bozos know anything about the subject. According to you muppets, nobody has really defined pitbulls? What in the **** are you talking about?

"Nobody can define a pitbull, really. Anyway, listen to these numbers I'm pulling directly from my ass and applying them matter-of-factly to a breed called pitbulls."

You have no clue how long it takes to breed out the fighting characteristics. And trying to do that, instead of simply not breeding the fighting dog anymore, is idiotic. Listening to 2 complete losers discuss that is hilarious, though. You guys don't even understand/agree these traits were bred into them in the first place. Both of you dweebs kettle-fishing non-stop to simp for a dog that'd dive through a pane of glass to kill a squirrel.

"Well, since we can't ever truly have 100% validated stats that tell us what % of the entire pit population bites, we can't do anything at all!"

Who gives a ****? Seriously, microbet, how are you so dumb? I am still in disbelief you've been on a poker forum so long and your analysis on everything is so trash. You'd be leaving loaded guns on the nightstand or your kids like, "Well, an 'assault rifle' isn't really well-defined and who knows exactly how many kids get shot like this?"

Imagine in the year 2030, attitudes like yours have resulted in Earth having just as many pits as humans.

"Yes, you have a 30% chance of being mauled to death on your daily walk. But without exact stats on how many pits there are and how many attacks happened, we just can't say if this is negative or not? Plus, who can really even know what a pitbull is anyway?"

Even if your mush brain could unsmooth itself to understand any of this, neither of you care, either. That's why you never address the problem, the damage from these dogs. Who cares if bad owners cause it or genetics, ffs.

What is the threshold ratio where you agree, okay, something must be done? How many people and pets must keep getting attacked until even you, a pathetic weasel, says enough? What are the stats that you need to see before you agree this is a problem and we should do something?

Last edited by Phresh; 06-14-2023 at 01:20 AM.
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06-14-2023 , 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Phresh
Yes, we all get it, dude. None of you bozos know anything about the subject. According to you muppets, nobody has really defined pitbulls? What in the **** are you talking about?

"Nobody can define a pitbull, really. Anyway, listen to these numbers I'm pulling directly from my ass and applying them matter-of-factly to a breed called pitbulls."

You have no clue how long it takes to breed out the fighting characteristics. And listening to 2 complete losers discuss that is hilarious. You guys don't even understand/agree these traits were bred into them in the first place. Both of you dweebs kettle-fishing non-stop to simp for a dog that'd dive through a pane of glass to kill a squirrel.

"Well, since we can't ever truly have 100% validated stats that tell us what % of the entire pit population bites, we can't do anything at all!"

Who gives a ****? Seriously, microbet, how are you so dumb? Imagine in the year 2030, attitudes like yours have resulted in Earth having just as many pits as humans.

"Yes, you have a 30% chance of being mauled to death on your daily walk. But without exact stats on how many pits there are and how many attacks happened, we just can't say if this is negative or not?"

Even if your mush brain could unsmooth itself to understand any of this, neither of you care, either. That's why you never address the problem, the damage from these dogs. Who cares if bad owners cause it or genetics, ffs.

What is the threshold ratio where you agree, okay, something must be done? How many people and pets must keep getting attacked until even you, a pathetic weasel, says enough? What are the stats that you need to see before you agree this is a problem and we should do something?
Don’t hold back. Tell them how you REALLY feel, lol
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06-14-2023 , 01:25 AM
The odds of something horrific happening are completely irrelevant when the one causing the horror is a worthless animal with 0 purpose. If you care more about having this breed at the expense of the million other pits being fought and abused or euthanized, you're legitimately a garbage person. There are 200+ other dog breeds. Develop a personality that isn't self-martyrdom by simping for neurotic and unbalanced fighting dogs.
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06-14-2023 , 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
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Do you think this is coherent?
Since pit bulls aren't even well defined and you really can't get stats on how many fighting dogs there are, it's fuzzy, but I believe his point is related to how there are something like 1000 times as many pit bulls as there are actual fighting dogs. And he's suggesting that, by and large, pit bulls are not being bred as fighting dogs (even if fighting dogs are bred and most of them are pit bulls).
Thanks but he was actually referring to just that post. It was the tail-end of a conversation. He apparently does not understand that an instruction manual for, say, building a house, would have a #1 as the first instruction and a #x as the last instruction. Like, not a misunderstanding of the specific instructions in any given instruction manual, but, apparently, not understanding what an instruction manual is conceptually.


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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
Pitbulls were built for their physical characteristics. We can just stop building them.
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Originally Posted by 6ix
Which physical characteristics are you referring to and what does this building process entail?
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
Agility and strength for sure. I assume aggression. .
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you didn't get to the second and more important part of the question.
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
They probably have tests and stuff to select dogs for different traits. Then they breed two dogs with the traits they want.
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Originally Posted by 6ix
the first step seems obvious, but I was more looking for a point A to Z explanation and as you see from Phresh's posts, he hasn't thought that part through and literally can't. But, you disappointed me son.

1. breed two dogs

2. ???

3. profit!
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
I still don't see what point you're making.
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Originally Posted by 6ix

My point is that "you" can't construct an idea that starts with "some old timey dudes have some aggressive dogs make puppies on purpose" and leads to "tens of millions of dogs running all over, who were clearly not selectively bred for anything, but also somehow have some distinct genetic connection to those old timey dogs" and have it maintain even any internal logic.

1. Breed two dogs

2. A wizard did it! (???)

3. Phresh masturbates to r/banpitbulls

Last edited by 6ix; 06-14-2023 at 02:15 AM.
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06-14-2023 , 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Phresh
There are 200+ other dog breeds.

"Pit Bulls" are not a breed! The majority of dogs are not a breed!!! Worldwide about 80% of dogs are not a breed.

You are so stupid and deranged that at any other point in my life I'd legitimately have sympathy and empathy for whatever caused it, even factoring in how mean and nasty you are. Lol but now I don't, so here we are.

Lol.
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06-14-2023 , 02:27 AM
Watch. Somebody can quote this so the babybrain sees it.

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Originally Posted by Phresh
The odds of something horrific happening are completely irrelevant when the one causing the horror is a worthless animal with 0 purpose.

Do you think dogs attacked and bit and killed people before ____ ?

You can fill that blank in with "you heard about dogsbite.org" or "2013" or "Michael Vick's thing" or "animals247's stats going back a few decades" or "the first year of CDC's stats" or "THERE WERE PIT BULLS" or whatever you want.
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06-14-2023 , 02:29 AM
His answer is "no" because that's the only answer that will make any of this make sense, but there's some part of his brain way back buried deep that knows how batshit saying that out loud is. It's maybe the last part left.
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06-14-2023 , 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Meh
Don’t hold back. Tell them how you REALLY feel, lol

Please don't taunt him, I don't want him to leave.

You should make a helpful advice-filled post for him like you did for me.

Last edited by 6ix; 06-14-2023 at 02:51 AM.
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06-14-2023 , 02:44 AM
It the interest of making this, uh, interesting, I'll donate to a charity for simply quoting posts (not anything crazy for just a single post quote) so that this smoothbrain coward sees and replies to them:

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Seriously, microbet,

Microbet was trying to explain my posts to LonelyButRich. You didn't even wait to see if I confirmed his explanation. For all you knew, nobody was saying that.

So.

Why are you getting mad and insulting Microbet over posts that I made? Why are you not directing your replies to me and instead deriding Microbet for things I said?


Before you answer, understand that I'm consistent: if you reply "well, I've been bred this way, I come from a long line of smoothbrain cowards" I won't believe that is true.
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06-14-2023 , 02:47 AM
Wait, ****.

Last edited by 6ix; 06-14-2023 at 03:14 AM.
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06-14-2023 , 03:19 AM
Lol.

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According to you muppets, nobody has really defined pitbulls? What in the **** are you talking about?
Haha.
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06-14-2023 , 03:24 AM
"Dogs defined as Pit Bulls are dogs known as Pit Bulls" is quite the ****ing sentence lol.

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Originally Posted by Phresh
According to you muppets, nobody has really defined pitbulls? What in the **** are you talking about?

Imagine if my man went on for about,




another 350 words and didn't define it. Even after I said I'd accept whichever way he chose to define it. That'd be wild.
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06-14-2023 , 03:28 AM
Holy God that post is an embarrassment of riches.
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06-14-2023 , 03:31 AM
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