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08-31-2014 , 09:44 AM

#5251

Didace

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Then who is Double and why does he need an advocate?

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09-02-2014 , 03:52 PM

#5252

abnormal

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I hate it when people who should know better misuse "the exception proves the rule":
http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...stupid/379488/

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09-02-2014 , 08:28 PM

#5253

Bank

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lol at never saying ess-ess-dee for SSD

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09-02-2014 , 09:11 PM

#5254

Brocktoon

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Originally Posted by abnormal

I hate it when people who should know better misuse "the exception proves the rule":
http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...stupid/379488/

Fine, I guess I'll be the one. Why is the use of "the exception that proves the rule" wrong in that article.

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09-03-2014 , 12:48 AM

#5255

abnormal

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Originally Posted by Brocktoon

Fine, I guess I'll be the one. Why is the use of "the exception that proves the rule" wrong in that article.

The beheading of two journalists has little to do with the "rule" (not a rule, more like an assumption) that: Most terrorist groups want reporters to carry their message to the world. Indeed, the beheadings carry the message that the terrorists are ruthless; no doubt it is a message the terrorists want to convey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excepti...roves_the_rule

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09-04-2014 , 12:13 PM

#5256

abnormal

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I guess Yoda is writing billboard copy now.

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09-04-2014 , 12:27 PM

#5257

Bremen

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Does it count when incorrect usage is intentional?

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09-06-2014 , 11:47 PM

#5258

Dominic

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A University of Oklahoma banner add during the football game...

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09-06-2014 , 11:52 PM

#5259

ncboiler

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Originally Posted by Dominic

A University of Oklahoma banner add during the football game...

lol. Awesome

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09-07-2014 , 01:17 PM

#5260

RussellinToronto

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Originally Posted by Dominic

A University of Oklahoma banner add during the football game...

Ah, Oklahoma education!
"Oklahoma high school teacher shows up for first day of work drunk, without pants"

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09-07-2014 , 01:28 PM

#5261

Nash_equilibria

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banner add

Ad or advertisement, not add.

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09-07-2014 , 03:15 PM

#5262

Dominic

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lol....oops

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09-09-2014 , 01:14 PM

#5263

RussellinToronto

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Originally Posted by NewOldGuy

I agree that in certain contexts "he" can be used in a gender-neutral sense, but not in the context which began this discussion, in my opinion. I believe it has come to be considered overly formal as well, and style guides starting discouraging this use many years ago. And of course you have to deal with the political-correctness police when you dare to use a masculine pronoun where sex is unknown.

There's always the Spivak pronouns too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spivak_pronoun

To return to this perennial topic: Today's NY Times has a column up about their style manual (and its violation by its journalists). It includes this:

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The company didn’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings by flunking them.

From the stylebook:

anybody, anyone, everybody, everyone, no one, someone. Each of these pronouns is singular and requires he or she (never they) on further reference: Has anybody lost his ticket? To avoid assuming maleness or femaleness in a general reference, rephrase: Has everyone bought a ticket? Often a plural construction will serve: Have people all bought tickets? As a last resort, the awkward his or her is tolerable; a plural pronoun with a singular antecedent is not.

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09-09-2014 , 01:15 PM

#5264

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The whole piece is interesting to grammar nits!

http://afterdeadline.blogs.nytimes.c...t-region&_r=1&

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09-09-2014 , 03:00 PM

#5265

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Originally Posted by RussellinToronto

To return to this perennial topic: Today's NY Times has a column up about their style manual (and its violation by its journalists). It includes this:

The reason their own journalists don't follow it is because the rest of the world is comfortable with the singular "they" and it's less awkward than the alternatives. The politically correct convolutions that NYT recommends are particularly bad. I'd go with the Chicago and AP style guides.

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09-09-2014 , 03:23 PM

#5266

Bank

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that gif is hysterical

Is the guy someone famous?

It's a jpg.

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09-11-2014 , 05:31 AM

#5267

STinLA

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Originally Posted by RussellinToronto

The whole piece is interesting to grammar nits!

http://afterdeadline.blogs.nytimes.c...t-region&_r=1&

The lesson in the first example was overshadowed by the implication that several dead people were trying to one-up each other.

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09-16-2014 , 06:57 PM

#5268

Bank

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http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=9814

emojis*

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09-16-2014 , 09:00 PM

#5269

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The most tilting grammar fail is not realising that the words "bias" and "dominate" are not adjectives. Runs rampant in sports discussions

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09-16-2014 , 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by royalblue

The most tilting grammar fail is not realising that the words "bias" and "dominate" are not adjectives. Runs rampant in sports discussions

Can you give an example? Since "biased" and "dominant" are adjectives, are you saying people just use the wrong form? If so, that's common with many words.

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09-16-2014 , 10:12 PM

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Stuff like "I know I'm bias but..." and "he's a dominate player". That really rustles my jimmies because sometimes it seems like the share of people that do that is approaching 50%. I will say that wrong use of dominate feels worse to me. I just don't see how someone could think saying "he was dominate" could be anything but wrong. With there/their/they're, at least it sounds alike.

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09-16-2014 , 11:20 PM

#5272

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Originally Posted by royalblue

"he's a dominate player".

I've never heard this said in my life. Dominant or dominating or dominated, but never as in your example. Is it possible you are actually hearing the first one but with a lazy or almost-silent "n" before the "t"? The key would be whether the "a" is long.

So you are hearing it with a long "a"? 50% of the time?

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09-17-2014 , 12:31 AM

#5273

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I'm reffering to written text, I dont live in an english speaking country.

I've read it most on a place called hfboards.com which is the hockey equivalent of 2p2, but it's not limited to there

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09-17-2014 , 08:35 AM

#5274

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Originally Posted by royalblue

I'm reffering to written text, I dont live in an english speaking country.

I've read it most on a place called hfboards.com which is the hockey equivalent of 2p2, but it's not limited to there

I see. So you are just talking about misspelling a word, by people who don't have English as their first language. OK.

When you talked about people "saying" it in discussions, and referred to how it "sounded", that gave a wrong impression.