talk about missing the mark on that one! lol

Wow...

really? you're gonna classify my statement of "pure unoriginal pop culture mashup" as snobbery? why? because every scene qt writes isn't derivative? pretty sure he openly admits this all over the place and is in fact excited to talk about it in those terms...

but according to you, tarantino's films are "the most entertaining films ever made?" again, really?

wow...must be an age thing i guess...

but i will say this film in particular is surely one of the most important (global) pop culture films ever made...

cool subtle strawman, bro

adding: strudel scene, war room scene with mike myers (who I didn't recognize).

this movie had a lot of great scenes imo.

how is that now when i'm arguing that he's created (in the case of the basterds) one of the most important pop culture films ever made, and you simply want to trumpet all his films as the most entertaining ever made?

Just watched the movie for the second time (saw it in theatres in 2009).

In Act II of the movie, when Brad Pitt is telling the 8 Jewish soldiers that they're going to kill Nazis and he wants his Nazi scalps, I assumed they were referring to actual Nazis -- SS troops, Gestapo, Brownshirts, etc.

But the guys that they kill and the Sergeant beaten to death by the Bear Jew are all Regular Army (Wehrmacht) from looking at the uniforms. Maybe I'm weird for asking the next question but I do happen to be half Jewish and some of my family members (distant cousins, etc.) did perish in the Holocaust. If Brad Pitt and the Basterds wanted to kill Nazis, why not kill SS units? Why not target Waffen SS and non-military SS and Gestapo? These guys hated Jews more than anyone. I mean they tattoo the SS Colonel Landa at the end of the movie (and he is without a doubt the scummiest member of the film), so why not more attacks on SS/Gestapo guys instead of the attacks on German soldiers?

I'm sure that anti-semitism was prevalent in the Wehrmacht (Regular German Army) as well but a lot of those who served in the Wehrmacht weren't exactly fans of THE FUHRER either. They tried to assassinate him a couple of dozen times. I'm reminded of the movie Valkyrie, based on a true story. Now I know that Inglourious Basterds is FICTION, but I'm still experiencing some cognitive dissonance here. The way I see it, killing these Wehrmacht (Regular German Army) soldiers the way they did after they were taken prisoner was a war crime. These men were soldiers fighting for a nation (albeit a disgusting and perverted one), and so it strikes me as completely immoral to murder them while they were in US custody. On the other hand, Basterds and the movie theatre chick killing all of the Nazis at the end was completely moral. Those animals who died in that theatre weren't soldiers. Far from it.

I believe there to be a significant difference between a Nazi (SS/Gestapo/Party member/Vichy whore) and a German soldier, and this difference is borne out in the history books. Nazis were hung at Nuremberg because they were war criminals. German Army soldiers, on the other hand, were given their pensions and lived to a ripe old age.

Again, I know it's a fictional movie, and FWIW, I did enjoy it. I would have enjoyed it more, however, if they had killed more actual Nazis instead of a mixture of Nazis and Wehrmacht.

Movie isn't too bad...it was ok but no pulp fiction

Just once, I want someone to live up to their SN.

dead, any German army personnel were considered Nazi's by the advancing allies.

I understand this, and again, I realize the movie is completely fictional, but I think it paints an unfair picture of the Wehrmacht.

Wehrmacht soldiers were forbidden from being members of a political party, and that obviously included the National Socialist party. While some Wehrmacht soldiers obviously would have been well suited to join an SS unit and go kill some Jews, many of them were just conscripts that were tools in Hitler's regime.

If you wanted to find a bunch of card-carrying Nazis in 1944, you would be looking at the SS and Gestapo, not the Wehrmacht. The SS, save for the Waffen SS, were the camp guards and other Jew-hunters. They were not soldiers, obviously, but were appointed henchmen of Hitler. The Waffen SS was a military force. Members of the Waffen SS were, in fact, Nazis, which is why they deservedly lost their pensions after the war. Members of the Wehrmacht spent most of their time fighting on both fronts against Allied forces, and this is where the Inglourious story breaks down, because these random soldiers were just pussyfooting around France in 1944? What were they looking for? Jews? Not their job.

I think the movie would have been more enjoyable had they killed some more deserving folks like members of the Gestapo (besides the bar Major) and the SS.

If you are fighting for a nazi, you are a nazi.

When you put it that way, I actually see your point. Thanks for distilling it down to this.

Still though, given that many Wehrmacht members were conscripts, what would most people have done? It's easier to say that you would never join the SS if conscripted (which some were, and are still just as culpable as the other SS ****s), but what about the country's army? The country that your family has resided in for hundreds of years.

JFC, miss the point more.....

jesus, stop ****ing saying wehrmacht

Sorry dude. I have been saying it since COD: WAW. It just sounds cool. It sounds like a nickname for that nasty **** that you take after pounding a couple 40s and 4 chalupas at 3 am.

Dead, I think you missed the point of the movie. The movie would lose a lot of its impact if the Basterds just targeted the evilest of the evil SS officers.

For example, the characterization of the German officer who gained his iron cross for bravery as a honorable and brave soldier before his prompt execution is intentional.

hans landa is the most likeable character ive ever seen in any movie.
true story
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I know it was intentional. I didn't think that I was misunderstanding the movie or that the filmmakers screwed up. I'm not and they didn't. You wouldn't need to kill the evilest of the evil SS officers, however.. Just ambush a couple Waffen SS squads. Kill a few Gestapo guys at a precinct. Would this really detract from the overall point of the movie? I don't think so.

Eli Roth stated in an interview that the movie was supposed to be an alternate conclusion to the war, and the way that he would have liked it to have turned out if he had some say in the matter. Well, I think the way they wrote it makes the Basterds look less than heroic. The Bear Jew killing that guy while he was in custody for refusing to cooperate was a war crime, lol. The sergeant was a prisoner of war.

warcrime is such an oxymoron.

Waltz is the most likable supporting actor I've seen in my lifetime. His character is despicable. To Waltz's credit, however, he made Landa seem like someone you might want to catch a brew with, which was no easy task. There's a reason he won Best Supporting Actor, and he's phenomenal in The Green Hornet as well.

The whole point is to make the Basterds look less than heroic.

I also think the film separates the regular wehrmacht soldiers and the SS. Just look at the tavern scene and the difference between the SS officer who plays the game and the other enlisted German soldiers.

You mean Gestapo, but okay. What difference do you feel is evident in the movie? We barely catch a second glimpse of anyone at the soldier table except for Wilhelm.

Well, the regular soldiers are characterized as just everyday guys with even backstory about the one guy's son but Dieter Hellstrom is given no backstory and characterized as a cold methodical interrogator. Now if the whole point is to say everybody in the German army is the same, there would be no need to include that whole bit with Aldo Raine working a deal with the one surviving soldier.