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01-09-2018 , 09:08 PM

#126

wahoo3

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Those instructions are amazing.

So you passed on table salt and had a glass of water instead. Probably a good call.

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01-09-2018 , 09:15 PM

#127

El Diablo

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Play,

I still don’t get it. You trust this guy enough to take highly diluted poison as a remedy, yet don’t trust him when he tells you table salt is a remedy for your condition.

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01-09-2018 , 09:36 PM

#128

JayTeeMe

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Originally Posted by wahoo3

Those instructions are amazing.

So you passed on table salt and had a glass of water instead. Probably a good call.

The table salt was also going to be diluted to the point that it was just tap water. That's the genius of it; the guy can just keep naming things until he finds one the googler will agree to and it doesn't matter. None of the 'substance' is gonna end up getting ingested anyway.

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01-09-2018 , 09:37 PM

#129

THAY3R

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Pretty much never a problem in typical Western diets, but lack of salt could actually be a health issue, but never sugar.

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01-09-2018 , 09:56 PM

#130

de captain

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Originally Posted by Playbig2000

Mr. Miyagi of healthcare.

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01-09-2018 , 09:59 PM

#131

Playbig2000

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Originally Posted by Banned4lyfe

How many times did you do this?

Thought he might have been ****ing with you but plenty of 5 cup videos on YouTube...

I didn't do it I took a full pill in my mouth everyday

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01-09-2018 , 10:06 PM

#132

JayTeeMe

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Probably should have diluted that one.

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In homeopathy, arsenicum album (Arsen. alb.) is a solution prepared by diluting aqueous arsenic trioxide generally until there is little or no arsenic remaining in the solution.[1] It is used by homeopaths to treat a range of symptoms that include digestive disorders and, as an application of the homeopathic Law of Similars has been suggested by homeopaths as a treatment for arsenic poisoning.[2] Since the arsenic oxide in a homeopathic preparation is normally non-existent, it is considered generally safe, although cases of arsenic poisoning from poorly prepared homeopathic treatments sold in India have been reported.

ALSO, you were googling what he wanted you to take and you balked at table salt but said 'bring on the arsenic trioxide'??

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01-09-2018 , 10:06 PM

#133

de captain

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Originally Posted by Playbig2000

I didn't do it I took a full pill in my mouth everyday

Very disappointing Danielson

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01-09-2018 , 10:11 PM

#134

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Originally Posted by Playbig2000

I didn't do it I took a full pill in my mouth everyday

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Living that YOLO lifestyle I see.

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01-09-2018 , 11:00 PM

#135

gregorio

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Originally Posted by Playbig2000

I didn't do it I took a full pill in my mouth everyday

No wonder it didn't work well.

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In homeopathy, a solution that is more dilute is described as having a higher "potency", and more dilute substances are considered by homeopaths to be stronger and deeper-acting.

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01-09-2018 , 11:22 PM

#136

owster

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So you decided to give homeopathy a go, then declined the first "cure" because lol table salt and decided to take undiluted poison instead? Solid.

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01-09-2018 , 11:47 PM

#137

El Diablo

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Play,

What other ailments do you have?

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01-10-2018 , 02:04 AM

#138

Minimalist

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I would drink nuclear waste, without a care in the world, if it were diluted in the five cup method.

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01-10-2018 , 02:10 AM

#139

DoctorZangief

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"I was too smart for his first cure so I took his second" might be the most effective 2+2 trolling line I've ever read.

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01-10-2018 , 02:45 AM

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Land O Lakes

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Originally Posted by DoctorZangief

Naturopaths in my jurisdiction are scam artist flim flammers.

Skullduggery at its finest. ESA secretaries are playing tee ball.

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01-10-2018 , 03:38 AM

#141

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S

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It was called the 5 cup method. You take 5 cups of water, about 6oz ea. You put one small ball (sugar ball that was mixed with a few drops of the remedy) in the first cup. You stir it 10 times. You take the spoon out, and put it in the next cut, and stir it 10 times. Then you take it out an put it in the next one, stir 10 times until you do it to the 5th cup. Now, remember, the tiny little remedy ball was only in the first cup. You then discard the first 4 cups (spill them out in the sink), and you put the 5th cup in the refrigerator and that's the one you use. You take a teaspoon per day. I'm not making this stuff up at all. This is the world of homeopathy.

Can not be real life. How could any adult listen to this?

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01-10-2018 , 03:46 AM

#142

SuperUberBob

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This would bother me to hell as well OP, primarily because I can see my parents falling for this.

However I take the side of the lot of 2p2. If she isn't passing up on conventional care in lieu of psuedoscience and can afford it, then there's not much of a case to be made. The only argument I could come up with is that paying pseudoscientists encourages their existence and incentivizes more people to get into it but that might be a bit abstract for your parents.

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01-10-2018 , 07:53 AM

#143

xlz

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Replies would probably have been different when poker was still a thing, but most of us are now lol[almost]olds now.

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01-10-2018 , 08:44 AM

#144

gadgetguru

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Obviously the correct play here is to find the homeo’s mum (hire dirk gently if you have to) and sell her magnetic bracelets, magic ph water and aura therapy. Since you are the rational one you should be able to pull this scam off better than the original homeo and either keep the monies as your inheritance or give it back to your mom to pay for her homeo.

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01-10-2018 , 12:48 PM

#145

golfnutt

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“Conventional” medicine just has slightly better outcomes. Supposedly.

Like the flu vaccine. I think a couple of years ago, it was determined it only helped 18% of patients. That isn’t a success. Probably can inject sugar water and the have same outcome.

I am very skeptical of big pharma. The studies/data to get something approved are lol. To get patients taking the drug, all that matters is money. Lobbying and marketing.

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01-10-2018 , 12:56 PM

#146

JayTeeMe

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Golfnutt, please stop saying idiotic, wrong things

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01-10-2018 , 01:10 PM

#147

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S

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Originally Posted by gadgetguru

So much homeophobia itt

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01-10-2018 , 01:25 PM

#148

Land O Lakes

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Originally Posted by golfnutt

In 2005 it was only 10% effective, derp. In 2010 it was 60% effective. Last year it was 39%.

You're an old cat, and the flu is dangerous for olds. If you were in close contact with 10 sick people and you haven't had a flu shot, would you prefer those 10 people hacking around you to have had a flu shot, or doesn't matter?

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01-10-2018 , 01:27 PM

#149

golfnutt

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Originally Posted by JayTeeMe

Golfnutt, please stop saying idiotic, wrong things

Pray tell, what is your experience?

I run megasize “we know all” medical practice.

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01-10-2018 , 01:46 PM

#150

golfnutt

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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes

10% is basically 0%. And hundreds of millions of dollars wasted.

If 10% of the time it “worked” what happened the other 90%. You have put a strange cocktail in your blood stream. I bet you a small % of that 90% developed something else. And it might not be today. It could lead to something else in 20 years.

And no, I don’t think other vaccines cause autism. But there is definitely a non-zero chance they cause other externalities. We really don’t study the negative side effects and it is probably for the best. They are 99.9% effective and society benefits from everyone being vaccinated.

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