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05-04-2011 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Yeti
after reading the dids + oski posts, i guess i am pretty curious as to what people's gut reactions were when they first heard.

when i was told all i thought was 'oh. sick'. maybe also 'this will be a fun thing to read about in the news and on 2+2 for the next few days!'. there was zero emotion there, nor has there been since.
Let me clarify since I haven't really put it into such terms: When I heard about it, I was thinking "great! Finally they got that p.o.s. and maybe we can start on a path to maybe getting U.S. troops out of there." I was not fist-pumping and going "U.S.A., U.S.A, etc." I just want to get moving along. As long as B.L. was out there, I considered it unfinished business; an open threat to society; and a huge drain on our economy. All politics aside, I just saw it as a positive development and was happy that a lot of affected people can start feeling a sense of closure (whether that last part is possible, I don't know, but that is something I considered as a basis for my reaction).
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05-04-2011 , 04:47 PM
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Added a senior congressional aide briefed on the rules of engagement: "He would have had to have been naked for them to allow him to surrender."
"Look out, he's got a red rocket!"
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05-04-2011 , 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Yeti
after reading the dids + oski posts, i guess i am pretty curious as to what people's gut reactions were when they first heard.

when i was told all i thought was 'oh. sick'. maybe also 'this will be a fun thing to read about in the news and on 2+2 for the next few days!'. there was zero emotion there, nor has there been since.
Honestly I felt excited and wanted to see what was going on in OOT with this subject so I jumped right on my comp. I was definitly in the celebrate phase after that texting my friends and chatting on Facebook. First time I spent more then 10 min on Facebook.
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05-04-2011 , 04:50 PM
Some pretty graphic images of the compound aftermath:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gall...256202&index=0
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05-04-2011 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dibbs
Some pretty graphic images of the compound aftermath:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gall...256202&index=0


Last edited by Oski; 05-04-2011 at 05:14 PM.
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05-04-2011 , 05:20 PM
My initital reaction (I learned from a daryn facebook update) was "Hmm, that's good".

Then as I scrolled through twitter I realized that this was a Big Thing and as I thought about it more, I just got happy. I didn't really expect that at all, and I'm sure part of that is just groupthink, but in the end I was pretty happy that a guy who was a pretty terrible dude is gone.
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05-04-2011 , 05:25 PM
I learned from a thread on my KC Chiefs forum entitled "where were you when you learned Bin Laden was dead?"
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05-04-2011 , 05:33 PM
75% happiness, 25% relief. Felt happy for the USA that they got him with a stealth/well coordinated mission, that he wasnt found in some lame cave somewhere and just hit by a drone.
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05-04-2011 , 05:35 PM
My initial reaction was, "htf did The Rock find out about this before CNN?"
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05-04-2011 , 05:38 PM
I didn't have an emotion when I first heard...more shock and stunned. I never thought he would be caught since it had been so long. I wasn't happy or sad or anything either, which I find a little odd. The more I thought about it, the more I thought it was a very good thing, and immediately hoped nothing bad happens tonight in terms of retaliation somewhere.

I didn't really get people who went to the streets celebrating.

I honestly feel very happy for those who lost family/friends, and anyone who serves/served, if this brought any kind of joy/closure/whatever to their lives, then I think that's great.

As a regular American who wasn't directly affected, I think because it took 10 years, I just feel numb. I would feel a whole lot different if it was 2002 instead of 2011.
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05-04-2011 , 05:39 PM
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05-04-2011 , 05:49 PM
I don't know if there would have been the same celebrations if this happened in spring/summer or even late in say 2002. I actually doubt it.
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05-04-2011 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
I don't know if there would have been the same celebrations if this happened in spring/summer or even late in say 2002. I actually doubt it.
I'm glad it took this long. I don't think the general populace was mature enough about the issues to accept it properly. I recall extreme backlash against all things Muslim in the U.S. and it was not healthy at the time. Capturing or killing OBL early in the game, may have proven to be a powder keg.

However, over time, we have been able to understand ourselves and each other better and it has been a net positive for our country (the healing process, not the whole ordeal which would include the attacks).

The U.S. was (and probably still is) painfully ignorant of the Muslim world and has treated them with open hostility (generally speaking from the perspective of a man on the street). I think the last decade has shown a lot of growth in this area. A large step has since been taken now that many people have accepted the fact that the "war on terror" is not a war on Islam.

We have seen this in the past as well with Japanese Americans during WWII. No matter how unfounded the fears, and how quickly it should have been able to reasonably determine that these people did not pose a threat to America (as they were, in fact, Americans themselves in both status and spirit), it still took a passage of time for everyone to come to their senses.
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05-04-2011 , 06:32 PM
I think it is very understandable why people flocked to the streets. Even if indirectly affected, the American, and overall world populace was affected as a direct result of that day.

Consider all the fear for years afterward, every time some biological fear was happening, some goofball sent some powder in a letter, the real chemical attacks, and consider if you personally didn't wonder if it would reach your door. Your ability to travel, changed forever. Your rights and freedoms, changed forever.

A great many things changed, to most of us, be it big or small as result of this one man's willingness to take his hate for his fellow human and drive it into unsuspecting innocent people. People doing nothing more then showing up for work, whose ideals differed from his.

I may not feel the cathartic retribution in the way as some WTC surviving family member, and maybe not even of an American, but I do feel it.
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05-04-2011 , 06:51 PM
I feel deep down that this is all pretty stupid and I would like to express my emotions with an lol.
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05-04-2011 , 06:53 PM
I'm gonna have to admit I was railing Viktor while 2 tabling on Play65 and my buddy IM'd me. Immediately turned on the news and Obama came on. Definitely shocked by the news, I thought my buddy was FWM.
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05-04-2011 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by amplify
My initial reaction was, "htf did The Rock find out about this before CNN?"
Major media sources knew around 9:30, it's where the Keith Urbahn leak came from.
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05-04-2011 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dibbs
Some pretty graphic images of the compound aftermath:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/gall...256202&index=0
Wow.

Spoiler:
Geronimo down
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05-04-2011 , 09:06 PM
i'll believe it when i see the body. oh wait..
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05-04-2011 , 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Yeti
after reading the dids + oski posts, i guess i am pretty curious as to what people's gut reactions were when they first heard.

when i was told all i thought was 'oh. sick'. maybe also 'this will be a fun thing to read about in the news and on 2+2 for the next few days!'. there was zero emotion there, nor has there been since.
I was happy and unexpectedly so as someone who is generally non-violent and would rather have him captured and put on trial (from a fairness standpoint, disregarding the political lines that would be drawn between nations).
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05-04-2011 , 09:24 PM
I am glad they did not release the photos. Pres. Obama is a very smart man.
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05-04-2011 , 09:43 PM
I have a couple question about throwing him in the water:

1) why would they dispose of his body instead of keeping it for analysis or whatever... I mean ok this might be taken out of a James Bond movie, but what if he had something of value hidden inside him? wouldn't make more sense to say they threw him out but keep the body?

2) assuming that they did in fact dispose of the body at sea, why bother with the hole "according to muslim tradition" stuff? why not just dump the piece of **** straight out of the helicopter and let the fish have a go at what's left of him? can anyone really blame them for that? do we have to give religious rights to even the worst of men? what is it about death that makes it so sacred?
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05-04-2011 , 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fafax
I have a couple question about throwing him in the water:

1) why would they dispose of his body instead of keeping it for analysis or whatever... I mean ok this might be taken out of a James Bond movie, but what if he had something of value hidden inside him? wouldn't make more sense to say they threw him out but keep the body?

2) assuming that they did in fact dispose of the body at sea, why bother with the hole "according to muslim tradition" stuff? why not just dump the piece of **** straight out of the helicopter and let the fish have a go at what's left of him? can anyone really blame them for that? do we have to give religious rights to even the worst of men? what is it about death that makes it so sacred?
It prolly has a lil to do that we have wars in muslim countries and there is enough hate for the US as is. No need to throw gasoline on the fire as they say.



Its just a smart political move to dumped him at sea.
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05-04-2011 , 09:53 PM
when i heard he died my thoughts were

1) wtf obama i want to watch csi
2) what witty one-liner statuses can i make on facebook
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05-04-2011 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by fafax
I have a couple question about throwing him in the water:

1) why would they dispose of his body instead of keeping it for analysis or whatever... I mean ok this might be taken out of a James Bond movie, but what if he had something of value hidden inside him? wouldn't make more sense to say they threw him out but keep the body?

2) assuming that they did in fact dispose of the body at sea, why bother with the hole "according to muslim tradition" stuff? why not just dump the piece of **** straight out of the helicopter and let the fish have a go at what's left of him? can anyone really blame them for that? do we have to give religious rights to even the worst of men? what is it about death that makes it so sacred?

1.) I feel like the 24 hour muslim stuff is cover for them having the nightmare decision of which country would take the corpse/bury him/ have to deal with possible shrines stuff. I imagine they did a very thorough body search to say the least, hasn't been mentioned yet in this thread but he had 500 euros and two phone numbers sewn into his clothes. They're def gonna do a full on autopsy/analysis on him before they chuck whatever pieces of his body are left into the ocean.

2.) Eh, there's a lot of muslims out there, if they can make it look like the US is adhering to their views its a big thing. My gut (probably paranoid) reaction is that it's more of a way to smooth out the whole carcass drama but who knows.

/End talking out of my ass
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