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OOT: Are/were you a winning or losing poker player?

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I am a net winner at poker.

444 84.25%

I am a net loser at poker.

41 7.78%

I broke exactly even!

12 2.28%

This is the option for those of you who just want to click stuff.

30 5.69%

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09-10-2011 , 02:09 AM

#126

Ineedaride2

Politics Court Jester

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 25,080

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Originally Posted by fracas

Awesome! Whatever happened to that guy?

More importantly, what are you doing fishing in Libya? wtf?

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09-10-2011 , 02:35 AM

#127

Victor

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 77,612

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Originally Posted by Triumph36

don't forget the survivorship bias inherent in asking this question several years after the site's primary traffic came from strategy + poker discussion. people who were net losers at poker probably weren't inclined to stick around.

also the age of the average OOTer - there were a lot of people that only deposited once back in the glory days. there's not a ton of 2008+ regdates around here.

i think its more most ppl had the self awareness to exemplify your initial post itt. i do, tho it took me many moar years than dids et al.

damn, rereading, mia's post is really hitting close to home.

regardless, just realized it, my point is that quitting up money is not equivalent to being a winning player in a certain sense.

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09-10-2011 , 02:39 AM

#128

antidan444

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 20,431

I was a net winner of about $10,000 playing low-stakes NL on Ultimate Bet and Party Poker from 2004-06 before Party Poker got shut down by the wonderful US government. That was the end of my serious playing. I did manage to lose about $400 in two trips to casinos to play 1-2 NL last year, mostly due to bad luck although I'm nowhere near the player I was five years ago.

Last edited by antidan444; 09-10-2011 at 02:44 AM. Reason: Frankly, five years ago, any reasonably intelligent person who did a modest amount of study would have won. I'm no genius.

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09-10-2011 , 02:45 AM

#129

vixticator

clutch

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 117,339

Winning. Small stakes, micro even. Not sure of the exact amount, something like +6k over a few years on the low end of a projection. Haven't been able to really play anything other than a monthly home game since black Friday.

I could never bring myself to play beyonce 100nl and would nearly always choose 50nl over that too even though I was massively overrolled. Like never moving up is probably why I was a winner. But I mean I'd have made way way more money working in the lowest paying job in the world for the hours I put in, not exactly care about winning moneys.

Last edited by vixticator; 09-10-2011 at 03:02 AM.

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09-10-2011 , 02:46 AM

#130

thisisintense

adept

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 995

winnarr

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09-10-2011 , 02:46 AM

#131

adsman

mazungu

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,198

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Originally Posted by Victor

regardless, just realized it, my point is that quitting up money is not equivalent to being a winning player in a certain sense.

We could go into so many variables here; being able to quit when you're down, quitting while you're ahead, which opponents you choose to play against, whether you sacrifice a chicken before a session, etc.

But to keep it simple I reckon are you up or down in your poker career is a good basis to work from.

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09-10-2011 , 02:51 AM

#132

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fracas

adept

Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,076

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Originally Posted by Ineedaride2

More importantly, what are you doing fishing in Libya? wtf?

My avatar is cropped from an actual photograph of protestors in Libya a few months ago just as the revolution was starting to build. I don't really know what it means, either, hence the wtf? part of my location.

Last edited by fracas; 09-10-2011 at 02:52 AM. Reason: So I don't really know wtf I'm doing fishing in Libya....

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09-10-2011 , 02:58 AM

#133

microbet

Solar Powered

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 58,332

Won at mid-stakes post UIGEA because I'm at least medium awesome!

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09-10-2011 , 03:09 AM

#134

vixticator

clutch

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 117,339

Also only winning because I was lucky enough to have played on stars who actually paid me after everything got shutdown. Only deposited twice and only cashed out like 4 times. My entire roll was online during BF. In hindsight not too smart but I didn't really think of it as money to use.

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09-10-2011 , 03:23 AM

#135

nath

the second coming of the second coming

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 69,114

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Originally Posted by vixticator

I could never bring myself to play beyonce 100nl

A+ if you're posting from an iphone and you use "Beyonce" so often that it autocompletes to that instead of "beyond"

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09-10-2011 , 04:32 AM

#136

deucedeuces

old hand

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,769

i am a winner at small stakes. never got past 50NL online back in 07-08. now i play 200NL live and do pretty well.

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09-10-2011 , 09:42 AM

#137

***

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 3,937

I highly encourage all of you that quit as winners to come back.

Because then you'd win more.

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09-10-2011 , 09:58 AM

#138

killa

huge dick

Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 18,997

Online loser for sure..live I win more then I lose but I was only and still am a once a month player. But I never kept track we'll enough to back this up

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09-10-2011 , 10:11 AM

#139

2/325Falcon

Conehead

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 21,799

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Originally Posted by ***

I highly encourage all of you that quit as winners to come back.

Because then you'd win more.

Not unless you have a time machine imo.

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09-10-2011 , 10:13 AM

#140

TheNoodleMan

Wet Noodle

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 16,566

I'm a lifetime winner.
Still grinding too.

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09-10-2011 , 10:21 AM

#141

TheCanoe

lazy degen

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 11,672

probably no chance I even open this thread if I had to click loser....

like Dids said, if you weren't printing mony pre-UIGEA, you really missed out.

I'm still on the grind, but the games have really dried up since the DOJ took over Stars/Tilt

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09-10-2011 , 10:48 AM

#142

Isitdur?

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,637

Winning in mind. Losing in wallet.

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09-10-2011 , 10:48 AM

#143

suzzer99

Save the Cheerleader, Save the World

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 100,714

Lol Dids, are the high-stakes breakeven SNG grinders who pulled down $300k in RB not allowed to count that?

I was a winning SNG player until the end. I was never great but I did manage to keep getting better just enough to stay ahead of the curve. Also I still went into a blind rage several times a session. Don't miss that. Lol SNGs.

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09-10-2011 , 10:51 AM

#144

RanchDressin

adept

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,148

Up about 40K since 2005, havent really played since BF.

Everyone talks about the party days which I was never good enough to take advantage of for the year I was able to play it, but Cake is where I did most of my damage from 2007-2009.

The SNGs were so easy I am surprised no one has mentioned it yet.

In terms of opportunity cost, I was fortunate enough to have a career since 2007 and used the extra money to buy a home.

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09-10-2011 , 11:05 AM

#145

Nod

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 102

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Originally Posted by ike

It's not lying if you believe it. I think very few people are lying but tons of them are just mistaken. This is pretty much the expected result any time you ask any group of people how good they are at anything. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority

This is of course the answer to the question the way the OP put it. Questions that might produce more accurate results might be:

"Do you think that the average OOT poster is/was a winning or losing poker player?"

or

"What % of OOT posters do you think are/were winning poker players?"
[poll gives % ranges to choose from]

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09-10-2011 , 12:37 PM

#146

gimmetheloot

banned

Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 15,371

winner and still grindin it out at low stakes

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09-10-2011 , 12:58 PM

#147

Jim14Qc

veteran

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,144

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Originally Posted by EMc

By the exact nature of the LFS question, I was a winner. However, I think I was a losing player at the end. In the beginning things were so easy on party, and then even after party I was winning for a while, then got into bad habits and people got better and I stopped winning and just liking the game. I still crushed my home game so I know overall I was net winner.

Same. Quit about 2 years ago now because the big-money-making was done and I'd been breaking even for 6 months.

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09-10-2011 , 01:17 PM

#148

keepitreal

veteran

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3,483

love scanning the names on the left and checking on the people i've always been curious about as poker players (then again, that's how i read most 2+2 threads...except for the funnies)

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09-10-2011 , 01:24 PM

#149

AngerPush

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 32,324

up 5 figures lifetime. quit playing anything close to seriously 5 years ago. still enjoy trips to casinos every now and then

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09-10-2011 , 01:27 PM

#150

plaaynde

Poker Historian

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 20,287

I make sure to play low enough to win. Started with play money, now it's the micros. Can't say my march upwards has been fast or anything.

Another thing is if I can be regarded a poster in OOT

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