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05-04-2018 , 06:43 PM

#14276

Montecore

RPElf = +EV

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 82,384

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Originally Posted by de captain

I think the worst that could go wrong is that ya'll will continue discussing her ad nauseum.

Are you new here?

I'm apparently one of the detestable H&F white knights, actually; it seems that you, in fact, are the one that appears to be new.

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05-04-2018 , 06:44 PM

#14277

Montecore

RPElf = +EV

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 82,384

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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant

I think it is fine for people who have the discipline to adhere to it. May even be okay for some to help them find discipline. The first two words of your post tho, are key.

I’m an advocate of building good habits, several at a time, so that you don’t run as much risk of sliding back off of a drastic change just as quickly as you implemented it. But I won’t argue with what works for others.

Yeah, I'm not an 'IF is magic' slappy by any means, just pointing out that her reasons for stagnation/failure remain the same as they've always been.

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05-04-2018 , 06:48 PM

#14278

ChipWrecked

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 12,723

A fast has to be absolute. The point is to clear out the glycogen and get insulin to drop, thus starting the fat burn.

Any caloric intake ****s it up. Or at least, any carb.

Personally I couldn't eat that much sugar in the morning and then fast.

I prefer to skip breakfast and then hold out as long as I can. Preferably til dinner.

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05-04-2018 , 07:19 PM

#14279

cs3

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 13,648

How come all the MLY diet fail is being discussed her and not in her HF work/relationship blog?
Everyone banned from it now?

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05-04-2018 , 07:22 PM

#14280

El Diablo

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 68,145

Chip,

Lol.

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05-04-2018 , 08:27 PM

#14281

Tom Ames

Thinks outside the bots

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 49,592

Quote:

Originally Posted by de captain

I think the worst that could go wrong is that ya'll will continue discussing her ad nauseum.

This.

The source of amusement has transferred to observing those still tilting at windmills.

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05-05-2018 , 01:45 AM

#14282

Johnny Truant

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 8,059

I’m not going to go to her log, but I will join in any topic that comes across my subbed threads.

Irregardless to the fact, what are we supposed to talk about in here instead?

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05-05-2018 , 02:44 AM

#14283

anonla

Cause and effect

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 5,456

Quote:

Originally Posted by de captain

I think the worst that could go wrong is that ya'll will continue discussing her ad nauseum.

Yepp

Quote:

Originally Posted by cs3

How come all the MLY diet fail is being discussed her and not in her HF work/relationship blog?
Everyone banned from it now?

Yepp.

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Originally Posted by Johnny Truant

I’m not going to go to her log, but I will join in any topic that comes across my subbed threads.

Irregardless to the fact, what are we supposed to talk about in here instead?

Hopefully about nothing because there are no people who post poorly in OOT. Everyone makes interesting posts about cool stuff they are doing and others join in in supportive chorus.

OOT Containment Thread for very bad posters

DZ is going to be snappy at that.

I have thought about starting something like anti- binging thread with strats and tools that could help with the problem but am torn already few days to do it in OOT or HF.

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05-05-2018 , 04:11 AM

#14284

Rexx14

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 7,056

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Truant

I’m not going to go to her log, but I will join in any topic that comes across my subbed threads.

Irregardless to the fact, what are we supposed to talk about in here instead?

Somehow I managed to stay out of the conversation. Now in regards to uses for this thread, we could make it a temporary Lapka appreciation thread and then just jump to another poster when we're sick of her. It could be an ongoing ass kissing thread which makes me slightly uncomfortable being an Aussie, but is perfectly suited for a poor posting thread.

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05-05-2018 , 09:36 AM

#14285

de captain

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,514

Quote:

Originally Posted by lapka

Hopefully about nothing because there are no people who post poorly in OOT. Everyone makes interesting posts about cool stuff they are doing and others join in in supportive chorus.

Lapka the dreamer.

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05-05-2018 , 10:34 AM

#14286

El Diablo

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Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 68,145

Rexx,

What are the top 20 things you appreciate about lapka?

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05-05-2018 , 11:40 AM

#14287

de captain

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 5,514

The fact that she wants to kiss her ass should give you a good idea of at least the top 5.

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05-05-2018 , 12:22 PM

#14288

chopstick

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 9,157

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Originally Posted by de captain

Lapka the dreamer.

You may say she's a dreamer. But she's not the only one. I hope some day you'll join us.

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05-05-2018 , 04:34 PM

#14289

ChipWrecked

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 12,723

Damn, this thread got hot.

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05-06-2018 , 11:08 AM

#14290

Neil S

King of the sidebar

Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 19,677

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Originally Posted by El Diablo

Neil,

lol, I just took a look. Her IF strategy is terrible for the same reason her caloric restriction strategy was terrible. She continues to get a huge % of her calories from non-satiating junk foods. That's a recipe for failure and why she's currently still on a track to get right back to how fat she was before.

Didn't she lose dozens of pounds eating the same "non-satiating junk foods" during the bet with 27?

Her problem isn't what she eats. Her problem is getting herself to eat LESS.

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05-06-2018 , 12:41 PM

#14291

27offsuit

actions have consequences!

Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 38,740

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil S

Didn't she lose dozens of pounds eating the same "non-satiating junk foods" during the bet with 27?

Her problem isn't what she eats. Her problem is getting herself to cheat LESS.

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05-06-2018 , 12:48 PM

#14292

abysmal01

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 1,648

Maybe it's just me but I feel way more sated after eating 800 calories of "junk" than the equivalent in "good foods"

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05-06-2018 , 01:06 PM

#14293

gregorio

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 37,479

Yes, it's just you. Try eating two cans of tuna and compare how full you feel vs eating two small bags of chips. They are both a little over 300 calories.

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05-06-2018 , 01:14 PM

#14294

Johnny Truant

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Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 8,059

Too general. Food selection beyond “junk” and “good” categories matter a lot, not just for feeling full, but the satisfaction you get from the meal itself as well. When you get used to not eating junk foods they stop making you feel good and start making you feel like ****, also.

If I eat a more than a few bites of cake now, and I’m talking the expensive, high end cake, I spend several hours wishing it didn’t feel like a hummingbird **** in my mouth.

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05-06-2018 , 01:24 PM

#14295

gregorio

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Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 37,479

https://www.diabetesnet.com/food-diabetes/satiety-index

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05-06-2018 , 02:14 PM

#14296

Land O Lakes

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Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,535

It's mostly BS, imo. Peeps trying to say that a person eating 3000 calories a day of **** will eat 1800 calories due to being satiated if they only ate potatoes?

As for that study, it was 41 university students with 3 peeps with a BMI 26-29 (one being "stocky, muscular male") - the rest were normal. If you're trying to get fatties to eat fewer calories due to claims of the satiety of various foods, wouldn't using all obese people be a better metric?

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05-06-2018 , 02:16 PM

#14297

gregorio

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 37,479

No, peeeps trying to say that if you eat 1800 calories of apples a day you will be less hungry than if you eat 1800 calories of bananas

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05-06-2018 , 02:29 PM

#14298

Land O Lakes

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 8,535

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Originally Posted by gregorio

No, peeeps trying to say that if you eat 1800 calories of apples a day you will be less hungry than if you eat 1800 calories of bananas

Which is implicitly stating that if 1800 calories constitutes a surplus, a person would consume fewer calories if they chose the latter food, all concluded from a study over 20 years ago using kids from a uni with loose controls in place.