The "Want to get together for drinks sometime or are you cool with dying alone?" line is just pure gold.

I've been using OKC for a couple of weeks now, and this thread has been immeasurably helpful, thanks to everyone who posts; particularly wutang, El D, Tyler Durden and yeota.

I'll try and stop lurking and actually participate.

Glad it has been working for ya. Go forth my son.

Got matched up with a tinder girl last night, chatted and set up a date tonight to grab drinks. She's done a fair bit of traveling and that always interests me. I'll tr later as usual.

As I said, I've been mainly using OKC for a couple weeks.

I also use Tinder, although I'm starting to grow tired of it. I met one girl through the app, who was in town with her family on a ski trip. We met up for drinks, had a great time, and then she went back to her hotel as she had to get up early to go to the mountain. We've texted a bit since, and she wants me to come to Boston (I live in Burlington, VT).

Other than that, I'll match with girls, most will not respond, those that do will message a couple times and then nothing.

On the other hand, I've had great success with OKC. I probably went a tad overboard and spam messaged like 30 women in one night. I ended up getting too many responses to keep up with.

I've been on dates with four of them:

1. A 45 year-old red-head with a great body but not that cute. She took me to dinner (Ha!), and then we made out a bit before she went home. She then basically booty-called me the next day. Sex was very meh. We texted a bit the next couple days but I kept her at arms length. I haven't heard from her in a week and she has deleted her account.

2. A cute 26 year-old. We had drinks and then came back to my place and made out a bit. She is very eager to meet again, and has more or less alluded to the fact that she won't sleep with a guy until date two. However, she's on the bigger side and since seeing her I've been on dates with two other girls that I find much more interesting/attractive.

3. 28 year-old artist who is very cute in a hipster kind of way. She has bangs, bright blue eyes and great style. We've been on two dates and the other night she came over and hung out at my place. She is definitely looking for a boyfriend, which I'm not looking to be this quickly. We get along VERY well. Almost non-stop laughter and cracking jokes. She is sarcastic and dark which I'm into. Just not sure there's enough physical chemistry.

4. 29 year-old young adult writer. We met up for drinks and had a great time. She wasn't feeling great, but wanted to meet me so came out anyway. Unfortunately she ended up getting bronchitis so I haven't seen her since. We're going to have date two this weekend and I'm looking forward to it.

That's all I have for now. Will definitely start contributing more.

Sounds like you definitely have the hang of online dating. Also, the quoted description of this girl cracked me up.

Tinder has been swell, I'm averaging 2-3 tinder dates a week past few weeks and this one. I'm just hoping I never exhaust the entire LA swipe pool hah sick

Just set up a last minute Tinder date while having Korean BBQ dinner with my buddy. I didn't have time to go home and change so I am going straight there wearing a navy Berkeley hoodie, basketball shorts, and 5 year old Reeboks... phillies 08 WS editions though.

Gonna be at a restaurant/bar for drinks. Premium hands!

El D,

She came in, chatted a while, she originally was going to stay for an hour $200 rate then said if I want the entire night it would be $500. I thought that was a bargain. The minute I went to the bathroom, I came out and she was gone.

The guys saying they would never resort to a prostitute,

The reason I do it is not because I can't get girls. In fact, I have a couple FWBs currently. But they have already gotten attached and want to gear things toward a relationship and do relationshipy things. Whereas, sometimes I just want kinky empty sex. And be able to do anything that will get me off without having to consider whether I'm going to hurt the other person. It's definitely selfish and sex addictiony, but has nothing to do with the whole stigma of "resorting to pay for it".

i stumbled across my own ingenuity today when i was hit up by a girl from tinder i have plans to meet with tomorrow night.

she messages me with somethign along the lines of hey im at work and im bored. how are you?

20 minutes later im home and i respond with okay lets play a game. 20 questions! (revised to 15)

if i win you buy first drinks tomorrow night. if you win i pay first drinks!

she agrees and i tell her ive got a topic she has to now ask about.

whats my topic? this is the genius bit. roll with the topic of a Weapon of Mass Destruction but when its time to give the answer say "My penis!"

it was light hearted humour and she guessed bomb on her 15th and last guess but i think she definitely appreciated the humour.

hook 2: midway through she was really struggling so i offered to give her a clue but said i could only give a clue if i get something in return. Try and aim for a picture here. she sent me a pic of her going to the trouble of standing on a chair so she could get a good mirror pic of what she was wearing. i took this effort as a good sign for sure!

give it a go and lets see what other responses people get. could be quite fun and interesting!

That approach works because it's like an adventure.

No sex was had this day... We made out and she would go no further, saying she wanted to be in a relationship. Rarely make it to three dates without sex

Drunk as I just got home but this date was meh. First off, she was twenty minutes late. Right at my cut off point but she ended up texting me saying she was lost since she's new in the city. Fine. She rolls in, immediately thought, "meh, would sex, would not try to sex". She was just an average woman to me. Conversation went well actually and I tried flirting more as I drank more but she wasn't really having much of it. We sat at the bar so there was some physical touching on my end, (her arm, lower back, nothing crazy) but no reciprocation. As it ended, walked her to her car and hugged her goodbye. Made plans, nothing concrete, to get together again. Idk. Meh basically. Basically cliffs but open to advice as usual.

Slightly off topic, how the hell do you guys keep dates under two hours, or even one? Every first date that involved drinks seemingly goes 3+ hours for me unless it's known before hand that one of us has some kind of time restraint. I mean I do my best to not be a dick and just end the date but sometimes I'd like to. Idk, I think my problem is I'll always try to keep conversation going because there could be something that sparks my interest and she hasn't said it yet? I only have this problem when I'm not immediately interested or we aren't clicking. If I'm clicking with a woman, I've no problem with longer dates. Slightly buzzed still, hope makes senses when I read the thread in the morning lol

Seems like you have enough other options that it doesn't matter, but in general one night of "meh" sex isn't enough to give up on it, imo.

Also, well done with the spam message. Was it completely copy-paste or did you tailor it a little to each person? On Sunday I wrote maybe 15 messages, and they weren't copy paste, but were pretty much the same format (it didn't work... got one response) of "Hey, how was your weekend?" followed by 3 or 4 sentences with a profile mention of some sort.

Basically, out of respect you only owe the person one drink (an hour). After that you can end the date whenever you want for whatever reason you want and you aren't being a dick at all. If you legitimately want to keep trying or think it's worth it to see if she relaxes a bit or something, of course keep going, but don't do it to be "nice" to her (it's actually quite rude if you know you'll never see her again to keep giving her hope/wasting her time)
How often is it that you don't click at the beginning and want to end it more quickly? Has the woman ever ended it quickly with you?

So Crazy Hot Blonde removed her "relationship status" from "in a relationship" on FB. Since I'm gonna be in her neighborhood tomorrow night, I sent her a text and said we should get together. She replied maybe, depending if she's back from running errands in the city. We then exchanged a bunch of texts for the remainder of the evening. It would be nice to get her back into the rotation as things were just heating up between us when she was pushed into a exclusive relationship with a guy she had been dating for a while.

Always have an out?

"Oh wow, look at the time. I have XYZ to do tomorrow morning and really should get some sleep. It's been a pleasure. [We should definitely continue the conversation. Does ___ work? | Let me walk you out.]"

On the only date I cut short, I asked if we're splitting the check (mostly because she continued ordering drinks while I had stopped and was ready to jet), put in my half, excused myself to the washroom and bolted. Not one of my proudest moments but I got such a weird vibe. She sent a few angry texts afterward and then blocked me on POF lol

I wouldn't sweat the "you have to pay for it" guys. lol I know dudes who drop thousands on bottle service and nice clubbing clothes. Take girls to nice restaurants, on vacations, etc... Oh ya, but they're not "paying" for it. lulz.

Yeah hookers are fine just a quick and easy fix and take yourself out if your everyday routine and drag for a moment just don't get robbed by hookers lol

Mashoo, re: time

I'm like you. I get along with pretty much anyone, I think my average first date is probably like 5 hrs... It's easy for me to just keep talking and enjoy myself as long as they are attractive and mostly interesting. Have yet to have a girl cut it short. I cut one date short with a girl from Tinder because she was so unattractive, but even that I had agreed to dinner so had to sit through that. Just took her home and made up some bs excuse and then she tried to kiss me.

But I've been on a lot of first dates that start at 5 or 7 and I'm not home till midnight or later.

It was maybe half copy/paste, half tweaking it a bit to the individual woman.

At this point, I have a text document with four different messages that so far cover most of the women I see on OKC. I'll use the one I think is best and add something that shows I read her profile.

This is a silly viewpoint to have.

agreed

Do you care to elaborate? I happen to agree with Rafiki, but I understand the viewpoint that you shouldn't value your relationship on how much you spend on your S.O.

Tr

The girl I took to the zoo that wasn't into kissing came over for dinner last night. Neither of us had seen the first house of lies so we watched that. Made out a little bit, she left. I don't think I will seek out another date.

Side note she brought chocolate mousse for dessert. She made it with avocados instead of egg whites and cream. It was weird.

I'm going out with the crazy iPad thief tonight. And have another date on Sunday with a cute Spanish looking girl.

I'm getting way more younger women matching on tinder in the last few weeks. And generally matching with a ton of decent women.

Are you guys that seem to go on a date every single night trying to just hook up or actually find something serious from one of these girls.

Seems like a hell of a lot of effort balancing all these women.

We're all just trying to get our willy nillys wet with as many different do-able girls as humanly possible.