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12-11-2013 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by amazinmets73
Not to mention a lot of muscular fit guys would actually be considered overweight.
luckily nobody is talking about this.
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12-11-2013 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
I'm not talking about the clothes, I'm talking about the other two. Transforming yourself to be in the top 5% in income and fitness would not require huge time and effort?
Yep you win, it will literally take years to get promotions/raises. I concede. Well done.

But what would your alternative be? Be unemployed? Obviously for some people, where they start in life/career wise 100k is going to be really ****ing hard.

5 hours a week in gym is a lot?
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12-11-2013 , 02:17 AM
Hey guys is it true that if you are getting light 3bet by an ip villain, if you 4bet with AKo and villain calls, it is +EV to open shove any T-high flop due to fold equity + overcard equity vs pocket pairs smaller than KK that call + equity from villain missing flop with unpaired holding?

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12-11-2013 , 02:18 AM
3Bet,

No poker posts in OOT. Take it to a strat forum.
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12-11-2013 , 02:26 AM
Alright my bad. Tbh outside of this thread I don't have a clue who to trust re: poker (or any) advice yet which is why I hesitate to post it to complete unknown posters (to me). I'll figure it out though, gotta do it sometime
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12-11-2013 , 02:49 AM
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12-11-2013 , 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by CCuster_911
The easiest way to punch above your eight(or date out of your league, although I hate both of these terms), is to do the following three things:

1. Get in shape and take care of your body(doesnt have to be buff, just dont be purely twigs, also includes haircuts and hygiene )
2. work hard towards increasing your earning potential
3. Dress good
i dont know what you guys are talking about the last page or so, but these things are just generally good things to do regardless of what kind of girls youre trying to date. specifically tying them to dating isnt a great idea. if you wanna use dating as a motivator to get in better shape and dress better, sure, but doing something BECAUSE of a girl (unless its a serious relationship) is generally bad for you. do things for you.
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12-11-2013 , 03:10 AM
change hair style /10
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12-11-2013 , 03:13 AM
not really an option unfortunately. my hair grows like a chia pet.
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12-11-2013 , 04:40 AM
But your hair style is some of those is really bad, where shorter would be infinitely better.

You also seem to be using a really bad product, but thats hard to tell from simply looking at pics.

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Most people think there hair is the only one that cant look good. That is never the case though.



If you have any pics of your hair long(longer than those) with absolutely no product send them to me.
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12-11-2013 , 06:27 AM
Yeah, I'd either do the hair shorter or longer tbh. I dont think there is a whole lot wrong with your current hairdo tbh and your pics look good! I only dislike the last one.
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12-11-2013 , 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
skunk,

"You can't make a sloppy generalization in one sentence, then bring up a gigantic exception case in the next."

You are plenty smart enough to understand my very simple two-part point. But just in case I overestimated your intelligence, let me simplify it even more for you.

1) Men who do well with women are generally way better sources of advice on how to get women than women are.

2) Men who are super good looking and/or super rich who do well with women are generally worse sources of advice on how to get women than men who are less good looking and/or rich yet also do well with women.

Anyway, I'm sure the women in this thread all are grateful you are here to make the case for them!
Wow, you come across as such a self-righteous douche in so many of your posts.
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12-11-2013 , 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Tyler Durden
I think putting income is douchey/stupid no matter how much it is.
Yup. It's just not a good idea for obvious reasons.

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Originally Posted by splashpot
Shirtless pics are douchey but I think the consensus in this thread was that they're +EV if you have the body for it.
And?
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12-11-2013 , 07:26 AM
Isnt he saying 'Income is douchey unless you have the income for it' ? I would never put it in tbh, if you have money, people will know. And its usually not because you told them.
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12-11-2013 , 07:51 AM
2,3,6 are the best. stop sticking your tongue out.
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12-11-2013 , 08:00 AM
2,3 look good. Tongue out = douche alert for girls
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12-11-2013 , 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Yakmelk
Isnt he saying 'Income is douchey unless you have the income for it' ? I would never put it in tbh, if you have money, people will know. And its usually not because you told them.
I know what he's saying, I just think it's totally incorrect and missing the point.
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12-11-2013 , 08:23 AM
Sigh I'm probably top 5% in income, top 20% in wardrobe, top 20% in fitness and 6'4 and I don't do that well. Plenty of room to improve on 2/3, but considering a lot of people are just terrible being in the top 20% is pretty easy imo.

What next? I find that being in the top x% isn't really relevant, because the bottom 50% are basically in a different game. You need to be better than the competition for top girls, and that competition is generally well dressed, cool, financially secure etc.

Ie I was in Philly a couple months back, and was wandering around the city, and was probably better dressed/in better shape than/richer than 90% of people of people. Then I went to a cool bar in the city where all of the cool young professionals were (center city sips at that place outside the bottom of comcast building) and I was suddenly below average. Yet this is where all of the young, intelligent , social, good looking girls were.

It's ****ing hard to compete in the big leagues
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12-11-2013 , 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Yakmelk
Isnt he saying 'Income is douchey unless you have the income for it' ? I would never put it in tbh, if you have money, people will know. And its usually not because you told them.
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Originally Posted by RichGangi
I know what he's saying, I just think it's totally incorrect and missing the point.
That's not really what I'm saying. I'm saying that the argument that "it's douchey" didn't seem to kill the shirtless pic strategy, so why does it kill the income strategy? There must be something else to it.
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12-11-2013 , 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Kenny Bania
haha, awesome. But seriously, there has to be some negative correlation between how cool someone is and how attractive/out of shape they were in high school and college...
I get so turned off and weirded out when girls have a before/after picture. I can't unsee that ever. I don't need a visual graph in pounds over time to show how big of a social outcast you were.

If I ever decide to stop cheating on my diet 2-7 days a week and lose this last 10-15 lbs to get SIX PACK ABS you can be damn sure I'm deleting any photo of me that showed me as chubby, even if it means breaking in to my grandparents' house to get them.
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12-11-2013 , 09:55 AM
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So I had work until 10 last night. Our plan was for me to pick her up at 10:45, go back to my place, and have a super late dinner. I seem unable to eat at a regular hour in these things!

Anyway, I had to go to the grocery store beforehand so I was running a little late. It was about 11:20 by the time I picked her up, 11:30 when we got back to my place, and 12:15 by the time we started eating. I was also fairly unprepared, missing lots of ingredients and such. Next time I do this kind of thing there definitely needs to be more thought behind it...

Anyway, I made tomato and mozzarella salad with balsamic and olive oil and rotini ala vodka with Italian sausage. The sauce came from a can even though I told her I would make it from scratch, seeing as I didn't want to eat at 3 am.

The whole time I was escalating things physically the whole time, and I kissed her while I was cooking. At that point, she seemed receptive and flirtatious. However, she declined a glass of wine with dinner, saying she didn't drink.

Then she kinda spazzed out after dinner. We sat down on the couch and started talking about movie options. She said if we started one she would probably fall asleep (which she had actually told me before the date- she had apparently not slept for two days due to school stuff). I said we could just cuddle up and start it, to which she replied "I don't get very touchy for a while." Idk how to interpret that. Anyway, I asked her if she just wanted me to take her home. She hemmed and hawed for a minute, so I told her to feel no pressure to stay. After another minute of thinking about it, she told me to take her home, and said we could hang out again Friday.

We held hands the way back. She went for a hug when we got back to her place, and I transitioned into a kiss. I said see you Friday as she left.

I'm not sure how to interpret things here. I liked her and she was very cute, but that was just kind of a weird sequence at the end of the night.

I texted her "get some rest!" after I got home, to which she said nothing back.

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12-11-2013 , 09:57 AM
I'm actually the opposite. I find it as a big turn on when a woman gets her **** together and lost a lot of weight. Ok, not if she were obese and lost 80+ lbs, but the girl who was cute but chubby in school and lost 20-40lbs? Sign me up. Those girls are usually super fun snd chill with a better attitude. they were the ones that didn't grow up with guys drooling over them.

Also, it shows upside that she is looking healthy as she gets older, good for down the line if it becomes long term
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12-11-2013 , 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by wutangpoker
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So I had work until 10 last night. Our plan was for me to pick her up at 10:45, go back to my place, and have a super late dinner. I seem unable to eat at a regular hour in these things!

Anyway, I had to go to the grocery store beforehand so I was running a little late. It was about 11:20 by the time I picked her up, 11:30 when we got back to my place, and 12:15 by the time we started eating. I was also fairly unprepared, missing lots of ingredients and such. Next time I do this kind of thing there definitely needs to be more thought behind it...

Anyway, I made tomato and mozzarella salad with balsamic and olive oil and rotini ala vodka with Italian sausage. The sauce came from a can even though I told her I would make it from scratch, seeing as I didn't want to eat at 3 am.

The whole time I was escalating things physically the whole time, and I kissed her while I was cooking. At that point, she seemed receptive and flirtatious. However, she declined a glass of wine with dinner, saying she didn't drink.

Then she kinda spazzed out after dinner. We sat down on the couch and started talking about movie options. She said if we started one she would probably fall asleep (which she had actually told me before the date- she had apparently not slept for two days due to school stuff). I said we could just cuddle up and start it, to which she replied "I don't get very touchy for a while." Idk how to interpret that. Anyway, I asked her if she just wanted me to take her home. She hemmed and hawed for a minute, so I told her to feel no pressure to stay. After another minute of thinking about it, she told me to take her home, and said we could hang out again Friday.

We held hands the way back. She went for a hug when we got back to her place, and I transitioned into a kiss. I said see you Friday as she left.

I'm not sure how to interpret things here. I liked her and she was very cute, but that was just kind of a weird sequence at the end of the night.

I texted her "get some rest!" after I got home, to which she said nothing back.

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You have to up your game... If she thinks a movie will be too long, suggest a TV show. Personally I always go with an episode of Impractical Jokers.

Also, I'd never directly suggest that we can cuddle up... Get something playing on the TV and go for it, she'll let you know if she isn't up for it and at that point you can suggest you'll drive her home.

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12-11-2013 , 10:20 AM
custer is definitely right about being in the top 1% of income. I can't even imagine dating as an adult in the US, Europe, or Australia on less as it looks like the top 1% of income earners take home a little under $35k/year. If you go to any 4 year college in the US you should be able to either make this or be working toward this right out of college these days so you're already where custer suggested you get to. Isn't living in a first world country great!
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12-11-2013 , 10:28 AM
35k is nowhere near the top 1% in any country but North Korea. And income perception is usually relative to the city you are in, so comparing it to the world as a whole is so lol _worthy
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