I went from thinking ATF is just a jerk to sincerely having pity for him. I mean that whole mess is just ****ing pathetic. ATF is never going to be in a happy well-adjusted relationship. I really feel at this point he should just settle for whatever broken woman is willing to put up with him (and willing to have sex with him).

So I'm supposed to have a 1st date tonight with Justin Bieber girl that we set up last Thursday.

Last night she sent me a short text asking if we're still on for tonight. I responded about 10min later confirming and suggesting a time. It's now been over 12 hours and haven't heard back from her...

Usually I'd just wait it out and send another text later today. However, I'm pretty busy this week and have 2 other girls on the go I'd like to see 1 of tonight should Bieber girl flake.

My question is how long is it appropriate to wait on this girl before I can make alternative plans with 1 of the other 2?

If she's confirming, she wants to hang out. Some people just suck at texting (i.e. every girl in Colorado)

If you want to know if the time is OK with her, why not just text her again and say, "So is X time OK with you?"

Alright, I'll give it a shot in a bit. Give her a couple hours to respond before making other plans.

Had an OK date on Friday, girl was super friendly and think she really connected with me. Met her from Tinder.

they start off bad and get progressively worse. You look incredibly thin which is a thing girls like. I would do what it takes to get a full body shot.

Yeah, first picture is the best. However, your strength is that you're tall (Probably?) and thin and these pictures don't focus on that. Generally I think women care less about faces than men, I would recommend clothed full body shots with friends that are not all girls.

Thanks for the quick responses.

I am 6"3 170 pounds. I think I look young for my age which makes it harder to attract the kind of girls I am looking for. I look really similar to when I was 18. Still not growing stubble which I would like.

Going to try and get some decent full body shots, all of these are selfies I took today.

Any more help appreciated, I am slowly reading this whole thread, on page 57 of 177, makes great reading!

Wow you don't say? lol

scott,

Wow, that sounds like a great ebook! I hope you tell us what it is and where we can buy it!

Don't be silly! I'll bet he's keeping the secret all to himself so noone else learns the marvellous and magical methods inside!

Read one of your earlier posts and it was horrible, now I just see that is your style. Well done.

I dont think you understand, I have transportation, I just dont personally own a car. I can use a very good bus system(free for me too), or a communal car service. I can easily get to any place within Austin.

LOL that was obviously tongue in cheek. Sort of.

The two girls that dropped me off were 24 and 23, I am 23.

I'm wondering if Tinder is broken for me. I get like zero matches. But I use OKC's local's feature which is the same thing and I get a ton of matches there. And my reply rate for OKC is pretty good recently.

Tinder is pretty awful for guys who are not 8s or better.

Make a new facebook and put up a pic of a 4/10 girl and you will get a 60%+ match rate.

Try a 7/10 guy and maybe it will be 10%.

Think because it is mainly for hookups and there are way more men looking for that than women.

I love 2+2

Are you spamming yes on Tinder, or being picky?

Attractive girls on it are very very picky. I was talking to a couple of friends that are both very attractive girls (23 and 26 respectively) this weekend about it... they say they almost never swipe right. They were also lamenting that even the guys they get matched with often don't send them messages, or are just looking for a hook up (not every girl on that site is looking for a quick hook up).

I swipe right maybe 1/5, and get about a match a day. Lots of girls that probably swipe left on me would respond on okcupid or match... but I guess they're usually just looking for the super hot guys if they're going to put themselves out there on tinder.

I'm also 29... so a lot of my spamming is on 23 year olds (way higher percentage of the site) who I occasionally get matched with. I have a decent conversion rate on cuteish 26-29 year olds.

I'm like 60% yes, 40% no. Are you saying being pickier would somehow result in higher match rate?

Spamming yes is the play on tinder. I used to do this. Don't even look at the pictures or profiles. Just absentmindedly swipe right while you're on the train or watching sportscenter.

I was getting 20+ matches a day doing this. Just filter after you're already matched - you will obviously get some undesirables this way (fat girls who will openly solicit you for sex) but they're easily blocked. Then just message the girls you like from there.

no, being less picky would. I swipe like 20/80 and have swipped over 1/1.5k girls I think and get a 1-5 matches every day and am def. not an 8+

I swipe yes to about 90% and get about a 1% match rate!

I used to spam yes, but I started wondering if they detect people who do that and block them for some reason. I guess I don't even really need to use Tinder, I don't have enough time to keep up with the dates I have.

Well, I sent her another text as suggested and still no response. I've made plans with another girl now, but still find it puzzling she never got back to me given it was her that sent the confirmation text lol

Below was the exchange... Definitely can't see where I could have fked it up haha

She said: Hey are we still on for tomorrow night?

Me (8min later): Yeah, does 7:30 work for you?

Maybe she thought she was sending that text to someone other than you...

guess im a 7.5 after all