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09-18-2013 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
My "success" with one-night stands is pretty decent! :P
This is because:

a) you're good looking
b) it's socially acceptable for girls to have sex with someone like you
c) the girls that get to date stage with you are already a bit desperate.

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It's with the girls I would want a relationship with that I am failing.
This is where your personality & interpersonal skills matters more.

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Originally Posted by dalerobk2
His profession has nothing to do with the situation. I'm an academic and I have the opposite problem of Nick.
Just because there's a stripper stereotype doesn't mean all strippers fit the stereotype. Shall I get out the Venn Diagram? The population consisting of "Fun part of brain shrivelled" has a large overlapping area with "Academic".

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I struggle to get first dates (compared to Nick), but I have never been declined for a second date when I wanted one. It's certainly a personality thing, but I don't see why you guys keep harping on his profession.
Because academia tends to enhance certain pre existing qualities in some people. Like a distant personality, rigid thinking, self absorption, dismissiveness of others' thoughts, etc. Those last two are what a grad school girl picked up as major flaws when he asked for feedback from her a few months ago, and I suspect this lack of philosophical sophistication and simple humble interest in another person's thoughts/other philosophies of life is what turns women off him.

Last edited by Truthsayer; 09-18-2013 at 09:56 PM.
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09-18-2013 , 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Truthsayer

Because academia tends to enhance certain pre existing qualities in some people. Like a distant personality, rigid thinking, self absorption, dismissiveness of others' thoughts, etc. Those last two are what a grad school girl picked up as major flaws when he asked for feedback from her a few months ago, and I suspect this lack of philosophical sophistication and simple humble interest in another person's thoughts/other philosophies of life is what turns women off him.
Academia is certainly not to blame here. Regardless of my failures, I am much, much better with women than I was before I entered academia! (Up to age 29, I had only slept with two women in my life.)
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09-18-2013 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jennitron
First Date Cheat for MEN:

Do not tell a girl where you’re going or how to dress.
Instead, tell her to "dress for a first date with a guy she really likes"

Then, pick 3 places you'd like to go:
  1. someplace fun and active
    (bowling, pool, mini golf, go-kart racing, ballgame, etc)
  2. something romantic and classy
    (nice restaurant, upscale lounge, art gallery opening)
  3. something in between
    (nice bar, coffee shop, comedy club)

When you pick her up let the way she's dressed decide the date!

Based on how casual or dressed up she appears, you are given insight into what it is she'd most enjoy doing that evening. And you now have the luxury of appearing like you had this perfect date planned all along.

P.S. I'm not a man and have not tried this. Please return with TRs for science
This ain't a romantic comedy, it's real life yo. Who has time or effort for this level of planning for an online first date??

Last edited by goofyballer; 09-18-2013 at 10:07 PM. Reason: says the guy with a love actually avatar, lol
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09-18-2013 , 10:07 PM
NickMPK,

Is it this rudeness (not responding with reply texts) in particular that bothers you, or does rudeness in general bother you, and this is just an example of that?

Can you give us some more insight on why this bothers you?
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09-18-2013 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
This ain't a romantic comedy, it's real life yo. Who has time or effort for this level of planning for an online first date??
Don't let me down, Goofy!
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09-18-2013 , 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jennitron
First Date Cheat for MEN:

Do not tell a girl where you’re going or how to dress.
Instead, tell her to "dress for a first date with a guy she really likes"

Then, pick 3 places you'd like to go:
  1. someplace fun and active
    (bowling, pool, mini golf, go-kart racing, ballgame, etc)
  2. something romantic and classy
    (nice restaurant, upscale lounge, art gallery opening)
  3. something in between
    (nice bar, coffee shop, comedy club)

When you pick her up let the way she's dressed decide the date!

Based on how casual or dressed up she appears, you are given insight into what it is she'd most enjoy doing that evening. And you now have the luxury of appearing like you had this perfect date planned all along.

P.S. I'm not a man and have not tried this. Please return with TRs for science
disagree. if she's worth the pursuit to you, do all 3 in one night. even if she's not, do all 3. it will be fun either way.
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09-18-2013 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by chopstick
NickMPK,

Is it this rudeness (not responding with reply texts) in particular that bothers you, or does rudeness in general bother you, and this is just an example of that?

Can you give us some more insight on why this bothers you?
Of course rudeness in general bothers me. But that's pretty tautological. If a behavior doesn't bother other people, it generally isn't categorized as rude. I don't think, on average, rude behavior bothers me more or less than it bothers most people. Some kinds of behavior probably bother me more, and others probably less.

The texting thing bothers me especially because, as I mentioned above, it is very disrespectful of my time and my peace of mind.
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09-18-2013 , 10:18 PM
Jennitron,

I can't tell if you are doing some sort of elaborate troll but great work whatever it is you're doing!
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09-18-2013 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jennitron
First Date Cheat for MEN:

Do not tell a girl where you’re going or how to dress.
Instead, tell her to "dress for a first date with a guy she really likes"

Then, pick 3 places you'd like to go:
  1. someplace fun and active
    (bowling, pool, mini golf, go-kart racing, ballgame, etc)
  2. something romantic and classy
    (nice restaurant, upscale lounge, art gallery opening)
  3. something in between
    (nice bar, coffee shop, comedy club)

When you pick her up let the way she's dressed decide the date!

Based on how casual or dressed up she appears, you are given insight into what it is she'd most enjoy doing that evening. And you now have the luxury of appearing like you had this perfect date planned all along.

P.S. I'm not a man and have not tried this. Please return with TRs for science
everyone likes drinks

that requires way too much planning and for you to pick her up. some of us can't even get a single date idea right . this seems like something you'd do if you were dating a girl in college

also i'm pretty sure this is really cliche
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09-18-2013 , 10:24 PM
yeah it is pretty clear that nick is one of those rare examples of someone who is a 9+ on paper but like a 3 in person, given some of the things you've posted that you bring up very early on in dates. hell man, you talk to random chicks about things i wouldn't even make my best friend listen to. just ask her what her favorite froyo flavor is or something.
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09-18-2013 , 10:29 PM
Nick,

Maybe try loosening up a little.
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09-18-2013 , 10:39 PM
Truthsayer, do me.
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09-18-2013 , 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by El Diablo
Nick,

Maybe try loosening up a little.
The funny thing is I feel like I am actually less uptight than many of the girls I am going out with.

The professor I went out with on Monday wouldn't order a drink at the bar, complained how cold she was on the terrace while the weather was still beautiful, and emphasized that she woke up every morning at 6:45 (when I see the biggest advantage of academia as being able to sleep in most days!). She also quizzed me on how many schools I could name in the University of California system, a quiz that I clearly failed.

The girl who worked for the synagogue who I went out with Saturday was also very picky with her food, and from the very start her body language suggested that she would shatter into pieces if I touched her. Both seemed a bit put-off when I mentioned my experiences in poker.

Both these girls were beautiful and extremely smart and well-educated (the synagogue girl has a Masters in Foreign Relations and also teaches a class on Middle Eastern Diplomacy). These seem like the sort of girls I should have success with long-term, but I sort of felt like I was disappointing them by not being quite studious enough. Instead, I've had some pretty good success picking up girls from Tinder who work at Nordstrom.
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09-18-2013 , 10:51 PM
lol
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09-18-2013 , 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
The texting thing bothers me especially because, as I mentioned above, it is very disrespectful of my time and my peace of mind.
I understand what you mean by feeling it is disrespectful of your time. What do you mean by it being disrespectful of your peace of mind?

Do you feel that these women understand that you feel disrespected by their behavior, and have just chosen to engage in that behavior anyway? Or do you feel that they are unaware of the impact of their behavior on you?
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09-18-2013 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by chopstick
I understand what you mean by feeling it is disrespectful of your time. What do you mean by it being disrespectful of your peace of mind?
Just that it sucks to be so uncertain about where you stand with someone. If the other party already knows with certainty, they are doing everyone a favor by sharing that.

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Do you feel that these women understand that you feel disrespected by their behavior, and have just chosen to engage in that behavior anyway? Or do you feel that they are unaware of the impact of their behavior on you?
I don't know; I would ask them, but they probably wouldn't respond!
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09-18-2013 , 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
Both these girls were beautiful and extremely smart and well-educated (the synagogue girl has a Masters in Foreign Relations and also teaches a class on Middle Eastern Diplomacy). These seem like the sort of girls I should have success with long-term, but I sort of felt like I was disappointing them by not being quite studious enough. Instead, I've had some pretty good success picking up girls from Tinder who work at Nordstrom.
My advice from January still stands. You are going after the wrong type of girl. You have it backwards with the bolded. You have it hilariously backwards with the second bolded. You are being IRL trolled by practically every successful woman you date, and it goes right over your head.

Successful, independent women want a man with mental agility, which is just a fancy way of saying a highly developed sense of fun. They also want a guy who enjoys taking chances.

It becomes obvious to these women quite quickly that you do not. They then realize are about to date their grandpa, and then it's all downhill from there. I'm sure most of their **** tests go right over your head, which is met first by amusement and then by pity and then by boredom and then by ignoring all future contact.
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09-18-2013 , 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
She also quizzed me on how many schools I could name in the University of California system, a quiz that I clearly failed.
how many were you able to name?
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09-18-2013 , 11:20 PM
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how many were you able to name?
I think six? A couple more I thought were UofC are actually part of the Cal State system.
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09-18-2013 , 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Jennitron
First Date Cheat for MEN:

Do not tell a girl where you’re going or how to dress.
Instead, tell her to "dress for a first date with a guy she really likes"

Then, pick 3 places you'd like to go:
  1. someplace fun and active
    (bowling, pool, mini golf, go-kart racing, ballgame, etc)
  2. something romantic and classy
    (nice restaurant, upscale lounge, art gallery opening)
  3. something in between
    (nice bar, coffee shop, comedy club)

When you pick her up let the way she's dressed decide the date!

Based on how casual or dressed up she appears, you are given insight into what it is she'd most enjoy doing that evening. And you now have the luxury of appearing like you had this perfect date planned all along.

P.S. I'm not a man and have not tried this. Please return with TRs for science
This seems like horrible advice. I really feel like some of the worst dating advice ever comes from women.
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09-18-2013 , 11:28 PM
You know Nick, I think the way forward for you is start turning dates into games rather than attempts to hook a girl. You're intelligent, you need to channel that intelligence into a goal of becoming freer and more fun. One way to do that is to have a goal beforehand and see if you can meet it. For example, actively try to make her uncomfortable and see how skilfully you can keep her on the point between wanting to leave and being reassured that you're normal. See how many times you can say "tampon" or "schnozzle" or "bar mitzvah" in a date and still get her to agree to a second. Disappear to the bathroom and see how long she waits for you while you watch from the door.

Dating is brutal. Successful women in particular will eat you alive, as they're already doing. You really need some training in breaking down boundaries - and putting someone else on the back foot and playing with their emotions is a great way to learn how women think and feel. The smart ones will see through it anyway, and get interested in your mind, which is what you want.
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09-18-2013 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Truthsayer
Successful, independent women want a man with mental agility, which is just a fancy way of saying a highly developed sense of fun. They also want a guy who enjoys taking chances.
Sounds like the professional poker players on this board should be cleaning up with these girls!
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09-18-2013 , 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by NickMPK
She also quizzed me on how many schools I could name in the University of California system, a quiz that I clearly failed.
If only you could name more schools in the University of California system.
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09-18-2013 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by garcia1001
If only you could name more schools in the University of California system.
This should be the real measure of a man.
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09-18-2013 , 11:33 PM
Nick I feel like you must either be like very rude or fail at picking up signs to the point where you are embarrassing/almost upsetting some girls. I haven't read all your posts, but somethings way off.

Also, don't talk about poker. Maybe your problem is that you are learning way too much in depth things about each other and nit picking? Just be casual.. it's a first date, you don't need to know her credit history by the end of it.
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