and IME are way way more likely to **** a guy they just met in the bar than American women and have basically 0 expectations of having the man pay most/all of expenses moving forward

I had a first earlier this month, I asked for the dinner check and then went to the toilet but by the time I got back it had arrived, she had paid the whole thing and was indifferent about it. I must admit I did feel emasculated. But then I got all the drinks afterwards so it was ok.

My GF is like this with Ranch. She has the worst taste in food of just about anyone I've ever met lol

Good thinking


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Wtf is this completely delusional lack of any kind of social awareness?

If he goes to Colombia for this girl then he's an even bigger ****ing moron than I initially suspected

That's a first I've heard of this move in a positive light - I pull that move when I can't stand someone and want to get out of there ASAP (and had one woman do the same thing with me for the same reason, though she explicitly said she didn't like me at all and wanted to leave immediately)

Saw Barbenheimer last weekend and honestly, Barbie had some pretty good quotes that could stand out as dating app openers, so wrote this little piece for the fun of it

20 Quotes From "Barbie" To Use As Tinder Openers

Anyone tried the Thursday app?

Seems like a terrible concept. Imagine having a deadline to beat like 10 other guys fighting to take the same girl out on a single prescribed day, you agree a date, then she just chooses someone better at the last minute.

Do the founders of these services even online date bro?

The whole online dating ecosystem has shifted to catering to women. Thats why Tinder is like 3:1 men and Bumble is like 60/40

Hi there. I completely agree with you. There are many questions to dating sites. For example, fake accounts and imitation of correspondence to keep traffic. Although why be surprised, it is, after all, a commercial company and must take care of profits and compete. Although to be fair, I have to say that it works for some people.

Hey all, wanna post my dating report with the Colombian girl. First off- my posts here were comical and after reading them after the fact- I’m a goof. I feel a lot of great advice was given here and I kinda followed it but yea Colombian chick and I broke up.

Some dated in June till like sept. We didn’t talk much bc I found our convos kinda boring about random life **** so I would take 5-6 hours to message her on ig and never did video calls with her lol bc my life is busy. She got mad and told me she lost her phone at a bar. She never said she was mad about communication style. So then she tells me she’s going to Mexico with her friend (that is a chick) and the chick is paying for her.

I’m like ha I don’t believe that. So we didn’t talk much for a week so when she got back, I’m like this is stupid and going no where so we shouldn’t be dating. I was planning to visit her in Medellín lol so I’m happy I got out of that.

For my lolz, some guy follows me on ig- this dude that picked her up when she went to airport from my hotel lol. This fat white balding guy that is not very attractive lmao. She went to Mexico with him and friends lol and I saw pics on his ig. She’s now dating him. This dude is an ugly mofo. I’m pretty sure she’s looking for green card / option to move to vegas. I told her I wasn’t moving to vegas soon but she’s looking to move to the us. I also told her I wouldn’t marry her to live in the US bc I can’t marry some chick I haven’t dated for say 1.5-2 years.

I kinda stopped talking to her a lot bc I was trying to get her to come visit in nyc but she couldn’t make it. I ran out of vacation for the year due to vegas trips so can’t really go visit her in Colombia even though I feel I dodged a bullet. Idk if you can’t afford a flight ticket to visit me- why do I wanna see you seriously (I would have covered hotel and dinners obviously). I’m kind bummed bc she was very sexy and we got along fairly well. I still think she’s looking only for green card / move to US lol / easy free vacations due to men paying bc she’s prolly poor. She was super attractive lol so kinda sucks/ I get on bumble in my city (Syracuse) and no girls look as good as her. She’s not like the best looking girl but she’s short, fake tits, works out hard at the gym somewhat, and had a cute accent.

Feel free to lol at jkpoker. I called her out and said good luck getting a green card and she denied it. Trust me if you saw guy shes dating- it’s hilarious. Like fat, balding, short and stocky. His Hendon mob was hilarious also bc he plays super low buy in stuff and tries to act like he’s a serious poker player.

Dumb move of me was to ask her to be my gf. Should have just said let’s be friends and travel together and we can have sex lol. Jkpoker still learning haha.

tough break but honestly sounds like this was a best case scenario ending

you get laid and don't get swindled, heartbroken, wake up in a tub of ice missing a kidney

Jkpoker, I think you care about appearance a bit too much. I know Syracuse is kind of a college town, but I guess you are a bit too old for that scene. And I think times have changed a lot since I was that age. But are there really no good local options? You have to go 2000 miles to Vegas only to meet someone from another continent?

Trust me man. I’m not the best looking guy per se (I lean but maybe a little less masculine than most guys which hurts where I live) but I’m a decent looking guy (aka I go the the gym, I dress well, etc). The girls I’ve seen on dating apps here are atrocious.

I added bumble here and paid to see my matches for a month. I got 100 matches and I kid you not- I think I found 2-3 of the 100 girls attractive that liked me on bumble lol. I can’t take chicks that don’t work out/ or exercise seriously. I mean sure I would be fine with a chick that was just lean and didn’t exercise but where I live- like 90% of chicks on dating apps are overweight imo.

I should move to a big city bc dating apps are always insanely good for me when I travel. Vegas- my last 2 trips I’ve met girls I have slept with that I actually found attractive and got along with. The problem is one was from Mexico and the other from Colombia. Btw it’s funny, I met this Brazilian chick here. Totally random- went on date with her and we hooked up this past summer. She digs me but moved. It’s so odd- I date foreign chicks even here and they like me. I go out with Americanish normal chicks and they dislike me. I recently went out with some girl from bumble and she told me I looked like a **** boy from my dating profile. Idk I don’t get it- not a **** boy. I find it hilarious how foreign chicks are nice to me and then the standard American chick that isn’t an uggo is meh toward me.

Honestly, I just need to move to have better dating results. I lived in Albany and while it wasn’t amazing- I did much much better than in Syracuse. Big city would be much much better for me. Trust me cuse sucks. If you somehow have bumble- swipe through girls in Syracuse. You honestly could be here 2 weeks and swipe through all of the girls on bumble. It’s really hard to explain how bad it is.



Btw thanks rickroll. I agree it ended well. I’m kinda bummed bc I wanted to travel with her next year and have a gtn lay lol. It’s so much more fun to travel with a partner Vs having to hit up dating apps/ go to clubs and find chicks if I want action.

It was funny btw I might have self esteem issues. She would ask me to send pics and I just declined and never tried to schedule video calls on weekends. Idk when she turned down nyc visit or some other type of visit where we could meet somewhere for a weekend, I just got kinda sick of her. Idk long distance is so stupid if you ask me. I got really angry bc she seemed interested in going to nyc when we talked in vegas and after and just when I brought it up she said she was too busy with work (maybe lies ha). My whole thought on this- I think the fat white guy paid for her to go to vegas. She hung out with him and his friends in green card shot. She met me and clearly I was better option. She then ditched him for a bit and hung with me lolz. He was a white knight and picked her up to take her to airport. I think she was playing 3d chess and prolly like who is best option for green card. I think she told me she could move to vegas and be illegal bc she had a friend who could get her a waitress job. Clearly was this dude. I just find it odd bc she was a really attractive girl and I’m like 99% sure if she was in america- she could easily find like top notch guys. This dude she’s with- it’s hysterical. I swear I wish I could post a pic here. If this girl was on bumble where I live or in a big city, she would literally go on a date every night if she wanted.

Btw I felt she got kinda less friendly when I told her I wouldn’t marry her so she could “not” be illegal in the US. I had told her I wanted to move to vegas but it would be difficult. Like if she was faking all of his per se for green card advances- I give her props for putting the work in. I don’t think it’s all green card but def plays big part and chance to move to the US. No hate on Colombia but from my research prior to potentially traveling- it seems sketchy as hell. More random side notes/ I went on bumble there to see what the dating pool was like- omg now that is a place with so many beautiful women. I would be a happy man with dating if I lived there.


Final final note- so I broke up with her. She messages me on IG after we break up and she goes on vacation with white fatso. She messages me she understand I don’t chat a lot and she misses me. A week later after I found out she went out with other dude on vacation- I’m like why the F would you say that to me if we are broken up and you are dating some other dude. Like what the heck is wrong with you. Just the fact she would say that with another bf annoys me. I feel she liked me yada yada but idk I’m still skeptical she’s just hard core green card hunter (I really hope not and she liked me but honestly idk).

i know nothing of syracuse, am somewhat surprised it's difficult because it seems like it'd be a decently sized population center

but man

low population regions of the north are just attraction sieves - the best looking girls from upstate ny, vermont, north dakota, etc have all moved to miami, nashville, nyc, austin, etc


i've talked this over extensively with other people in new england (men and women) and we're all pretty much in agreement that the attractive single women up here either get snatched up rather quickly or if they are more purposeful about marriage prospects they pack up and leave for a warmer area with a wider dating pool of high earners

median income in portland maine, the most youthful, upscale, and vibrant city in maine is only 35k a year - if you want to marry someone who is a good breadwinner making 6 figures a year+, you're going to really struggle and be super selective and it'll take time to find those men

you leave maine and head south and you can find places with nicer weather and go husband hunting in clubs/bars/etc where most people earn a good income to support you

even the women who have their own income and career want this in a man as well - it's not even about gold digging for most - just about seeking a high value man


as a result, up in maine it's slim pickings - i almost never see genuinely stunning women on the apps and the rare ones are just swarmed and too much competition - there are plenty of fairly attractive ones who I would view as a good match but they all have a lot of warts such as having 3 children (including a newborn) from a prior marriage, living an hour away, don't want children, insist on living off the grid on their homestead which doesn't have running water, etc

the difference in quality between ruralish new england and elsewhere is stark when i'm in nyc or boston it's about 65% swipe left and i easily swipe left on over 90% of the women on the apps up in maine and of those <10% I swipe right on up in maine, about half I would have left swiped had i been in an area with more options

and then from there - they are all inundated because they are the only non fat/obese options so getting anything more than a "hi" is just incredibly hard

meanwhile in nyc or boston it's very easy to translate a match to discussion and then meeting up because the guys have other options and we're not all fighting each other for 4-5 women in which case the vast majority of us get ignored

probably going to get flamed for this but here's a live view at bumble right now - i drove 1.5 hours to see henry IV today so was able to cast a wider net than usual

sent everything from phone to myself via slack and just screenshotting in a way to crop out eyes to make it anonymous

i have settings 18-39 and up to 25 miles away (which is about an hour's drive in maine since it's all country roads and never a direct drive)


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Can't argue with your choices here - given the competition I can't see any guy not swiping right on Sofia, so def need a tr if you match.

Reminds me of when I had been Tindering like crazy in Montreal, France, and Latin America and having a lot of fun then I returned to Omaha for a couple months and it was like "oh god, what have I done?"

Especially when you're mid 30s, in some of these places finding matches that are sub 200 lbs and without a kid is like finding a diamond in the rough. Honestly not sure what I would have done if forced to stay long term in a smaller, Midwestern city.

yeah you'll see it's mostly women who are too young for me or too old to have children

the sweet spot of fertile and age-appropriate women is quite small and the few options who qualify are usually obese and probably 80%+ already have kids

if i go to a city I'd argue most women are in the correct age range, not obese, & do not have children

i'm not 100% against being in a relationship with a woman who has kids and am very aware that the older I get, the greater the likelihood that's where I'll end up - it'd also legit be preferable to be in a relationship with someone who already had kids in the event I weren't able to have kids of my own

I do however feel like if it can be avoided, that goes a lot easier logistically

kind of feels like I'd forever just be a spare part who slid into the equation as a replacement rather than someone who built a life of their own - if I had kids of my own I'd probably feel very different about that because I'd be bringing my own logistical issues to the table as well - just kinda feels like two single parents are far better suited for each other because they are both bringing equal loads of logistical baggage into the picture

like a few months ago i matched with a woman, i knew she had kids because it was on her profile and was like whatever and then we chat a bit and we're trying to meetup and because this kid is a toddler who she's raising solo and that it's tough to find a sitter, it means every date we went on would need to be toddler friendly - i just couldn't imagine trying to plan things with her around involving her kid and realized the focus of the date would not be on us but on the toddler and then i'd become a defacto parent to the toddler - so I kind of stopped making suggestions and she stopped initiating and that just fizzled out & this was a woman who i was amped about matching with because she was in late 20s, like me spent several years living abroad, and most importantly, lived within half an hour driving range but the kid was too much of a "i don't think i can take her out kayaking or go spend the weekend camping or even take her for a walk out on the rocks by ocean at sunset after dinner and find a discreet place to bang if she has a toddler" kind of thoughts


like my last gf, all we did was travel and find fun places to bang, stairwells, construction sites, airport bathrooms, ancient temples, jungle, swim out to boats moored in the harbor and bang on the deck, we tried really hard to do it inside the pyramids but there was too much foot traffic and could never get more than a few minutes of alone time at any point

coolest place we succeeded were the horse catacombs of caracalla in alexandria egypt, you go several stories underground - we soon discovered we were the only ones down there so off to the races we went

pretty sure the illuminated chamber on the bottom left was the spot we chose

i realize those days are probably behind me anyway, but I am quite certain I won't be doing anything of that sort if we have a toddler in tow, so that toddler better be my own then

it feels super selfish to say this stuff out loud, but I just don't want to give up all my sleep, freedom, spare time, etc to raise someone else's child

maybe if I were a bit older then this would be great as a proxy for adoption, but at this point I'm still thinking that if I'm going to be raising a child, it should be my own - like if some of the kids mixed in their were my own then it'd be a lot easier to justify but then again, timeline wise - even if I met the perfect match today and sped run to marriage and pregnancy, I'm still at least 1.5-2 years away from my own child - and I'm just not sure how much time and effort I want to invest on being with someone else helping them with their children only to realize after a few weeks/months that this is not at all the person i want to be partnered with

Btw 3d chess is actually just chess. Jkpoker you mean 4d chess.

Whether you want to date a single mom or not, any woman letting guys she just met meet her kid(s) is insane.

agreed, the logistics of her saying that she'd be taking her kid with her was not as big a focus as "wtf you're bringing your child on a first date?"

was more talking about general instances for other less insane women where just coordinating meeting up with a sole custody single mom is going to be a nightmare

"hey you want to get together on thursday" "let me see if i can get a sitter"

"hey we can't go to that play because my sitter can only stay until 10" etc etc etc

like why can't i just meet a nice floridian woman who will tether her child to a lightpost at a target parking lot for a few days so we can have some alone time?

What's the online dating scene like these days? I've checked OKC and bumble a few times over the last couple years and in my current age bracket the pickings are a huge downgrade from what seemed like the mid 2010s golden age. Did Bobbo get married? Does wutang need me to pick him up from some random sloot's mom's house?

My issue:

Hookers and blow the far superior choice

Still in a relationship, been going over 3 years now. There are ups and downs. Dating doesn't seem appealing at all even if being single occasionally does.