Yeah, I couldn't get a bite when I first went back to online dating.

However, the more effort you put into your profile, the better chance you have of attracting interest.

Shuffle - Try to get some decent up-to-date photos, and feel free to post your written bio here for constructive feedback.

I guess no one else has noticed that Shuffle has been very upfront with us in this thread that his standards are impossibly high.

FYP

Feminism is fine. Its the 1% of feminists that are the reason MGTOW and InCel babies exist.

Whiny men itt!

Everyone is allowed to like/be attracted to whomever they please, and even allowed to make "poor" choices about who they go out with.

Congrats. This is one of the dumbest things I've ever read on 2p2. And yet nuc was able to top it within a few hours.

Calling out MGTOW and InCel as babies crying about a tiny percentage of women is dumb huh?

lulz

I'm sure the MGTOWs and InCels have enough self respect to not be blaming someone else for their own choices.

Otherwise they'd be pathetic victims who can't stop whining every chance they get about how 'oppressed' they are.

You haven’t done nearly enough messaging especially during the late summer/early fall period, I’m not sure what your normal hit rate is but most guys is probably 10-20% so your batting high but dating requires numbers. Also, I’ve never been on POF but can you tell if they’ve been active or the last time? I wouldn’t waste messages on women who haven’t been on recently.

This must be extremely common even among 5'8" guys b/c I'm a tad over 5'11" but list myself as 6' and a few women have been surprised at my height when we met in person. I guess I should have listed myself at 6'2"!

Best girl on top sex I've had was with a chubby girl. She was an anomaly though as it's generally been better with skinnier girls.

Ha, I say 5'11". Wonder how uncommon of a height listing that is.

I do the same. Maybe I should add a quip about "too honest to round up".

Recently I've seen (well, on 2 profiles, so I guess it's a trend) - "dad jokes, not dad bods". I legit laughed-out-loud the first time I saw it.

Where do you live? That might be your biggest problem. I found similar issues when I lived in Memphis. As someone else might have said, you might be too selective for your own good. I'm not sure what your population is within OKC and POF but if you only have 5 people attractive in a 250 mile radius--either there aren't many accounts or you're looking for super models. It's also why you aren't getting many responses. If you're setting your sites at the 1%, they normally get too many hits or likely off the market already.

OKC and POF are dying. The swipe apps are taking over. POF is like the dumpster. There is so much trash on there. OKC changed their format. Someone told me that now the other person has to like you back before they see the message (Which is dumb). So there is no point in crafting a message that will likely never be read.

No. Being a tiny man is entirely a lifestyle choice:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.esq...or-men-043013/

And:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07BX96T7D/

Recently I'd say I've had the most success on hinge and okc. Wouldn't mind hinge becoming more popular.

New dating app idea. Unhinged. Psycho seeking psycho.

*thumbs*

I've never dated outside large cities, but I really doubt it's relevant that you're within close driving distance to these cities. In Chicago, for example, I bet a huge proportion of the dating population would consider it a huge strike against you to even live in Evanston or Oak Park, let alone Indiana.

Eager to hear others' opinions if they disagree.

How would you rate your looks?
I like the change on OKC. Women have it so much better in online dating now. Why would you want to craft a message to someone that doesn’t show an interest in you? We all have more time to swipe through profiles instead of sifting through an overload of messages.

Because some women don't judge men mostly on looks when not forced to do so, and will reply to an intelligent message from a man with average to below average looks whom they probably would have swiped left based on looks alone.

It's fine that Tinder and Bumble are around for those of both sexes who are pretty shallow, or looking for sexual only relationships. It's a shame that OKCupid and other sites who already had great systems have decided to change their operations to become closer to the apps. I can't imagine it was ever that much of a hardship to see crappy messages and delete them, but if that really was too much for some women to handle, they could just use one of the apps instead.

I used to love OKCupid and met so many people I dated there, and even had interesting interactions with women whom I never met. Now that fewer people are using OKC, and the system has changed, I barely find anyone through the site. And I have tried Bumble and Tinder, but I get few matches, and the ones I do get are with women who either have no info about themselves, a very limited bit of information, or a summary that turns me off. It's a lot of effort to try to engage in conversation to learn anything important about the woman, and most of them aren't willing to do that.

A lot of guys here suggest trying to meet right away, which I guess works for them, but I can't tell if I want to meet a woman just based on her pictures and the tiny bit of info given on the apps. Going out to meet someone is a pain, and I'm not willing to do that with someone who there may be a 10% chance of us being a decent match for dating. Online dating was great because you could filter out all the poor matches before going to the trouble of meeting them in person.
App dating sucks.

The other factor to consider is not everyone who is looking to date uses an app, much like not every single person goes to a bar to meet in real life.

It may be that shuffle needs to look elsewhere than dating apps to find the type of woman he wants.

Expecting a dating app to deliver a life partner ala Amazon Prime is not always going to work for everyone.

It might be time to try another avenue.

DONT: put pictures of your 4-wheelers and trucks. I couldn't care less about your vehicle or toys and it just seems really weird to.put pictures other than yourself on a dating app.

Why do guys do this?

It also seems weird when they have 700 Instagram photos linked to their profile and show pictures of their children.

Women have far weirder stuff than that on their profiles. You'd be shocked at the number of pictures that are not of the women themselves.

The largest number of photos is of their dogs, but quite a few are of various other things; pretty pictures of landscapes, flowers, etc. There are a surprising number of pictures that are just motivational / supposedly uplifting statements. There are a decent number of women on Tinder and Bumble who have no pictures of themselves at all, and a good proportion of those also have nothing written about the woman! I'm not sure how these women think the system is supposed to work. Do they really ONLY want to hear from the men who swipe right on everyone?