how would you know if you're looking to date them seriously before the first time you met them?

unless there's something about the person that lets me immediately know we won't be compatible, I don't rule it out. I just go in with a "whatever happens happens" attitude usually. for me, the first night thing would probably be closer to a yellow flag than an "uber red flag". first night hasn't happened more than a handful of times for me, so I don't have a huge sample.

Hey, for all you know, some other guy is paying for her car and phone like a gentleman! Quit being cheap

lol wtf

She can't be too easy, because easy usually means slutty, which in turn usually means dirty, which - yeah, okay you get the idea.

You guys know there are things called "condoms", right?

I go for it because I'm a guy and we think with our dicks. But I am significantly less likely to have anything long term with a girl that makes it too easy. Not really sure why. I guess just instinctive?

So all females are on POF?

With black girls if I play for everything when we go out, and they don't ask me to pay their bills, rent, etc, I consider myself a winner. That should tell you a lot.

Some girl wrote in her profile that nothing good has ever come from prostitution, so I messaged her and said "oh I don't know, what about PRETTY WOMAN? It gave guys hope everywhere that they could turn down-on-their-luck, hard-working women into the love of their lives." She replied "so your ideal woman is a hooker? Good luck with that, gross".

That's what I was led to believe. Apparently I don't get out much.

Hmm, well, in fairness, I don't know if the chick I banged is on POF. However, we met in person.

So if you've got live game, why are you online? Or was this an accident in some way?

Long story...
Let's say I got very lucky.

I wasnt sure if i should post this here or the "life tricks" thread. Here it is...

If a girl messages you "jimbarond?" it translates to "is jim around?" Which is a reference to some Jerky Boys prank call. Which in turn means come over to my place and we should ****. That may be a good pick-up line? Im 30 and married fwiw. No pics necessary.

Don't get physical too early with girls. You should try to get her comfortable with you, and build rapport, and make sure there's really a connection before you touch her. This shows that you respect her boundaries, which so few people do, and elevates you in her eyes.

this is good advice if u want to get wifed up. If looking to get layed quickly gotta attack the basket

So much contradictory advice ITT...

I'm curious if you thought that message would really be effective, and if so, why?

Lacking live game is not a requirement to online dating.

Worth it to troll a girl who says nothing good comes out of prostitution in her profile. Her reply confirms she's boring/lame.

Haha actually is the opposite. Get physical asap . Hug her when you meet,hold her hand blah blah make out in 30mins.
Then point to your boner and say "look what you did to me".

Well sure if you want any old hussy instead of a quality lady.

Because I had so many dates I wouldn't care. I make exceptions of course if the girl is really cool.

I actually went on 3 dates with this girl without having sex. She's really hot and smart and what happend was on our first date I was fingering her in the car after an hour but no sex.

Big mistake. Should have ****ed her in the car.Even though she likes me she wouldn't come over because she knew she was going to get ****ed and she didn't want to feel slutty.

I messed up somewhere. At the time my live game wasn't that good. Looking back now I would have handle things differently.

She basically got validated,we made out a lot,fingering ,took my dick outblah blah

What I would have done different is make out with her just a couple times,keep it short and make her want more ,keep the sexual tension then heavy makeout and fingering when we get to my place.

Uhm...k you're clueless. Quality ladies don't like dick lmao.

It sounds like you just want to force things quickly and not bother with qualification or comfort, like they are extraneous things just for wasting time, or something