All good advice for burd, but none of it explains his flake rate imo

The fact you actually watched the film on her suggestion within the 48 hours of her presumably mentioning it and the date is weird. I guess it's not all the weird but telling her you did is definitely not beneficial. Sure it's a small thing but it makes it look like you have nothing going on.

Also way too needy.

This

think he meant gay bashers

What kind of gifts do you guys get for a new girl? I've been seeing a girl for just under two months, and although we have not verbally established it as a "relationship" yet, we might as well call it that at this point. Her birthday is tomorrow, and I sent flowers to her office and am taking her to dinner at a nice restaurant. Do I need to bring an additional gift?

It may be too early for any 'real gifts'. Flowers and dinner sound appropriate enough and should be appreciated.

That sounds appropriate. I don't think an extra gift is necessary. I assume a bday card is attached to the flowers, but if not, maybe bring a card if you feel like you don't want to show up empty handed. For some additional context, my current gf and I began dating a month before my birthday. She made me inedible brownies. I remember thinking the level of effort, if not the execution, was about right.

ETA: I see you in the tribe thread. If in Cleveland, where you heading for dinner?

Get her off after dinner and you're golden

K,

IMO: Flowers to office plus dinner = perfect. Additional gift too much.

Box of Trojans.

If he actually watched the movie. I took it as him just being a smart ass which is right up my alley. Being a smartass via text doesn't come across well until you've established that vibe in person.

So the girl who flaked for evening the other day but suggested a walk the same day has now flaked for dinner tonight saying she is ill but was very apologetic and seemed keen to rearrange. I suggested Friday or Sunday and she chose Friday which she seemed excited about. Maybe she really is ill or seeing someone else tonight

I would have ditched anyone else after the second flake but this one just happened to be one of the best first dates I've ever had so I better just proceed and not expect or overthink anything I guess. Have a first date with someone else on thurs who seems like a good one too. need those irons in the fire.

Sandra what or who are you and what's your bracket?

Got a first date, if you want to call it that, tonight with a pretty, smart professional. Funny, social and smart...but blond. Don't know about anybody else but sometimes do you just stare at the screen and think nope, nothing... As in they are not your type !!

Sandra-I might be confusing you with someone else but it seems like you get quite excited about 'great' first dates and 'potential' way too early. You might benefit from just taking things as they come and not trying to gauge long term potential or whatever after online communication or just one date

Thanks, guys, glad to see I wasn't undershooting. I also baked her a dozen cookies (using some dough I don't like that I got from neighborhood Girl Scouts, so getting it out of my house is win-win).

I'm not in Cleveland anymore. I now live in the middle of nowhere in Indiana. I shudder to think what this $60 "fancy dinner" would cost in a big city.

True dat

But at the same time, this one was one of the best first dates I've been on, she ticked literally every box, she was flirting with me all date, we made out for a while and she texted me first when she got in. I mean all that is fine and everything but it's happened to me before with hot girls and they've gone dark, but never a girl like this so it's hard for me not to be excited.

I would defy any guy who had the date I did and wanted a LTR not to get a little excited after that. But then there's the possible flakiness thing and overall hot girl factor which makes me think 'do not get excited'. So yeah I'm trying not to be.

I went through the same thing with 1 girl who I wrote about a lot ITT (still best 1st date I've ever had). She flaked 3 times on me before I called her out and she claimed she was emotionally unavailable. Been a little over 1.5 years now and we still text once in a while, although with her initiating these days since I'm in a happy LTR.

I think being excited is normal after a date like that and you're definitely experienced enough by now to know the flaking signs aren't too good, but I certainly wouldn't give up on her yet either. She seems to still be putting effort in and those magical first dates are too rare to give up on them easily.

Look forward to seeing how this plays out for you.

Yeah, managing your expectations is tough at this stage but hey ho it's the price you pay for trying to get with a hot girl. Not giving up and she just texted me again, seems like she wants to convince me she wasn't lying about being ill, well I hope that's what she's thinking.

You mention this girl texts you occasionally, did she become 'emotionally available' again at some point? Ahhh, I think I remember, this is the girl you were considering cheating on your gf for and there were a few pages ITT with a lot of people suggesting dump your gf? Or maybe I've got it mixed up.

Anyway in other news not like anyone will care but I posted somewhere in the thread a pic of my favourite shirt in the world, my first date shirt, diesel, beautiful check lining, 10 years old now but still in good condition. well I lost it somehow about a year ago and was gutted about it but my last landlady dropped off a bag of stuff in the office and the shirt was in there!!! I am so happy right now. I am gonna wear it to my dinner on friday and prob for this first date on Thurs

Having grown up in Indiana I feel for you man. This is not good.

the neediness of the other texts made it quite obvious that he actually watched the movie and wasn't just being a smartass.

On tinder where you are what % of women have bios filled out?
Age profile is probably important to but not sure.

I'm in small European capital searching in the 33-39 range and very few have anything in there bio.
Les than 10% for sure.

City in UK, like 20% and half of any writing specifies no hook ups.

wtf do almost all the personal ads on craigslist for w4m under casual encounters say they are 420 friendly? wheres the normal women that want a little love and affection? seems filled with drug addicts, why is this?

on another note, why do they all say to change the title of the subject to a certain topic when they are the ones doing the spamming? its certainly not the men who are insincere about wanting to meet up in real life. its not the men asking them to use a credit card on some website to "verify who u are".

Ax murders too. Don't forget ax murders.