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10-11-2017 , 12:50 PM

#31001

rubbrband

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gregorio

He often attempts to change his situation. He's quit gambling for good for weeks at a time on 3 or 4 occasions, and quit drugs/drinking twice that often. He even had Larry write him a resume once so he could think about thinking about looking for a job. When he saw how horrible he was at betting on baseball, he switched from being an MLB capping expert to an expert on football.

Quitting gambling for three weeks or dead broke for three weeks?

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10-11-2017 , 02:04 PM

#31002

El Diablo

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Football hunchers,

Full rules/details

Weeks 3/4 are underway! 30 picks over the 2 weeks in any distribution - they do not have to be 15/15.

I confirmed the remaining ungraded picks. Congrats to week 2 winners oT, Nat, and LKJ!

Eligible picks:
Weeks 3/4 started with yesterday's MNF and ends Sunday night 10/22.

NFL and NCAAF games.
Spread and/or O/U on whole game (alternate spreads/points not allowed)
ML on whole game with -500 and +500 max lines (> +500 picks allowed, but only +5 pts awarded).
All picks placed as 1-unit bets on PM.
Unused picks count as a loss + penalty.

FBHCSERIES HUNCHERS (start of week 3 standings)
4 Natamus 3.65 (30)
4 owster 1.69 (30)
4 Banned (proxy for babs) 1.2 (30)
4 LBR -1.64 (30)
4 fuluck414 -1.99 (29+1) [includes -1 missed -.25 penalty]
4 Saklad -4.15 (30)
4 HT -7.01 (30)
4 El D -7.44 (30)
4 gs-10.64 (30)
4 redbuck TBD

2 offTopic 3.82 (30) (owed week 2 first place)
2 LKJ 2.41 (30) (owed week 2 third place)

1 samuri8 1.79 (15) (keeping $25 for winnings)
1 matrat (ElD vouch) -1.54 (12+3) [1.71 (12) -3 missed -.25 penalty] (sent $25 to samuri)
1 GM -6.18 (15) (sent $25 to El D)

Winners
Week 1:
4 El D 2.65 (15)
4 Natamus 1.82 (15)
1 samuri8 1.79 (15) (keeping $25 for winnings)

Week 2:
2 offTopic 3.82 (30)
4 Natamus 3.65 (30)
2 LKJ 2.41 (30)

Babs vs ElD bets
If your next 150 NFL picks on your NimadamusPicks PM (betting at same 5-unit level, of course) are up 72.55 units or more, you win the bet.
NFL status at bet start: 154 - 96, +205.69 units
Current NFL status.....: 175 - 111, +204.14 units

If your next 133 NFL picks are up 64.33 units or more, you win.
NFL status at bet start: 166 - 101, +238.14 units
Current NFL status.....: 175 - 111, +204.14 units

Babs vs Others NFL bets
100 with banned, 100 with redbuck, 200 with fuluck
on finishing ahead in his first 150 picks on nfl on pick monitor.
Current status: 60/150 bets +59.45 units

Niners over 4.5 wins vs fuluck for 100. (current status 0-5)

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10-11-2017 , 02:31 PM

#31003

LKJ

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Diablo,
My involvement now being done, I take it that my total result will be -$25? Is that something we're waiting until the end of everything to settle up, or should I ship somewhere now?

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10-11-2017 , 02:40 PM

#31004

Natamus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LKJ

Diablo,
My involvement now being done, I take it that my total result will be -$25? Is that something we're waiting until the end of everything to settle up, or should I ship somewhere now?

Hey I'm not the only one bad at math!

I'll be glad to take your winnings since you want to pay them to someone else

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10-11-2017 , 02:43 PM

#31005

LKJ

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I’ve never seen a payout schedule. I won money? Sweet. I remain undefeated in hunchcaps.

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10-11-2017 , 02:46 PM

#31006

El Diablo

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Hunchers, red:

Here's the situation. I calculate 2.44 for red's first 30 listed picks. However I don't think those are necessarily the first 30 picks he entered, and I don't think we can tell without going into each pick and looking at timestamps. His first listed week 2 10am picks went +6.09. His next 12 10am picks went +2.96. His final 8 1pm picks went +.21 units. In situations like this in the past, we've just gone with the first 30 picks, but this is an unprecedented situation with wild number of extra picks. If red had some of those 1pm picks in his initial 15 picks for week 2, then his score would have been quite a bit lower.

So, red, here's what I'll propose:

Option 1: go through 35 picks for the 10/7 and 10/8 games and list when they were made (or get someone to do this for you) so we can identify your first 15 picks:

You do this by clicking on the pick, then clicking the view all picks and line moves button, then looking for your name.

For example, you made the Bills-Bengals picks at 4:28 and 4:38:
buckidamus Get All Access 10/7 4:28PM +$80.00
buckidamus Get All Access 10/7 4:28PM +$90.91
buckidamus Get All Access 10/7 4:38PM -$100.00
buckidamus Get All Access 10/7 4:38PM -$100.00

the Houston-KC game picks at 4:31:
buckidamus Get All Access 10/7 4:31PM -$100.00
buckidamus Get All Access 10/7 4:31PM -$100.00

and Hawaii-Nevada at 4:32
buckidamus Get All Access 10/7 4:32PM +$92.59

If you do that, we can identify and score your first 15 picks, apply any penalties for invalid opposite side picks, and I think applying 3 penalties (-1.5) for the 20 extra picks and this hassle would be reasonable.

I mean, who are we kidding? Of course you won't be able to do that, old man. But maybe Nat will... Nat?

I do believe you'd end up with a score that's likely to be in the positive and in contention for winning the contest if you did this, very likely in the top 4 scores.

Option 2: you start week 3 in last place with -10.65 units. I think this would be a terrible choice for you, but it also would involve no effort.

Last edited by El Diablo; 10-11-2017 at 02:54 PM.

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10-11-2017 , 02:53 PM

#31007

El Diablo

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LKJ,

Quote:

Originally Posted by LKJ

I’ve never seen a payout schedule. I won money? Sweet. I remain undefeated in hunchcaps.

2-week: 325 / 150 / 100

So, $25 will be coming your way. Actually, PM me your email address and I'll PayPal you the $25 I got from GM so you'll be all squared away.

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10-11-2017 , 02:57 PM

#31008

redbuck

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I think I can handle this.
I had a very secret formula that I used to make these pick, unfortunately the hamster got excited and jizzed out too many winners before it could be sedated. I'll work on this now and let you know shortly...

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10-11-2017 , 02:59 PM

#31009

gregorio

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Wait, so without the penalties, redbuck beat babs, too?

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10-11-2017 , 03:02 PM

#31010

Natamus

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El D,

I'm heading out the door for the next 6-8 hours. If noone has helped Red out when I'm home tonight I'll see if I can sort out when he made his first 15 picks.

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10-11-2017 , 03:04 PM

#31011

El Diablo

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greg,

Correct. Babs is in 3rd place to start week 3 because red has penalties for overpicking, and 4 players with better scores than him have quit the contest. So if everyone was included just based on their performance, Babs would be in 8th place out of 15.

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10-11-2017 , 03:11 PM

#31012

LKJ

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Thanks for the clarification (and for running all of this) Diablo, PM incoming.

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10-11-2017 , 03:39 PM

#31013

redbuck

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Ok, here's what I did:
on Sat (10/8) when I thought that I had 30 picks to make for the contest, I started with all of the remaining college games that eve (Missouri, Wisc, UCF, Neb, Utah, Nev, & SD St) and made a pick. Then I went to the Sunday pro games and starting at the top (BUff) and took all the dogs and all the unders right down the list. Don't really know how that LAC ML bet got in there. I had some issues with the computer, so I think that's why I double picked later on. More likely, it was Patrick the penetrates fault.
But, as babs would say, "you know what I meant to do"........

I know it was my fault and I will pay ($$$) regardless of what the ruling is,
but I don't want any crying when I win.

Beeeeyoftz

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10-11-2017 , 03:41 PM

#31014

gregorio

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Eighth out of 15 is pretty good. That puts Babs in almost the top 50% of handicappers itt.

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10-11-2017 , 04:01 PM

#31015

jmakin

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wow, beast sucks at sports betting.

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10-11-2017 , 04:26 PM

#31016

Banned4lyfe

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Red,

Download the CVS file

Think you might have gone 10-5

Last edited by Banned4lyfe; 10-11-2017 at 04:37 PM.

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10-11-2017 , 04:44 PM

#31017

gregorio

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Nice try, Banned, CVS is where he gets his Viagra.

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10-11-2017 , 04:46 PM

#31018

rakemeplz

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gregorio

Eighth out of 15 is pretty good. That puts Babs in almost the top 50% of handicappers itt.

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10-11-2017 , 05:51 PM

#31019

amead

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Hope neither a beast nor a beast's condo have had their leg put up on the table by the wildfire.

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10-11-2017 , 05:55 PM

#31020

Natamus

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Amead,

A Beast when speaking about the wildfires sounded like he wanted us to feel pity and bad about it but it because he or anyone close to him have been directly affected.

Hopefully that has remained true, it's been a couple of days since a wildfire weasel popped his head out

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10-11-2017 , 06:10 PM

#31021

jmakin

banned

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pretty sure my grandma's house burned down, but luckily she was in the Galapagos.

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10-11-2017 , 06:21 PM

#31022

GMLAW

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El D,

Why would you send my 25 bucks? Just send your own damn money.

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10-11-2017 , 07:04 PM

#31023

El Diablo

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GM,

I don't want your dirty Dutch money!

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10-11-2017 , 07:21 PM

#31024

El Diablo

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Banned,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banned4lyfe

Red,

Download the CVS file

Thank you!

Here are red's first 30 picks.

Code:

9/27/17 21:46	Football	NCAA	Game	North Carolina	Georgia Tech	Point Spread	Georgia Tech	-110	-9.5	0.909090909	1	0	0.909090909
9/27/17 21:46	Football	NCAA	Game	Syracuse	NC State	Point Spread	NC State	-110	-12	0.909090909	0	1	-1
9/27/17 21:46	Football	NCAA	Game	Central Michigan	Boston College	Point Spread	Central Michigan	-110	8	0.909090909	0	1	-1
9/27/17 21:47	Football	NCAA	Game	Baylor	Kansas State	Point Spread	Baylor	-110	17	0.909090909	1	0	0.909090909
9/27/17 21:47	Football	NCAA	Game	Miami Ohio	Notre Dame	Point Spread	Notre Dame	-110	-21	0.909090909	1	0	0.909090909
9/27/17 21:48	Football	NCAA	Game	Mississippi State	Auburn	Point Spread	Mississippi State	-110	9	0.909090909	0	1	-1
9/27/17 21:48	Football	NCAA	Game	Troy	LSU	Point Spread	LSU	-110	-21	0.909090909	0	1	-1
9/27/17 21:49	Football	NCAA	Game	Mississippi	Alabama	Point Spread	Alabama	-110	-28	0.909090909	1	0	0.909090909
9/27/17 21:49	Football	NFL	Game	New Orleans Saints	Miami Dolphins	Point Spread	New Orleans Saints	-125	-2.5	0.8	1	0	0.8
9/27/17 21:49	Football	NFL	Game	Carolina Panthers	New England Patriots	Total	Carolina Panthers	-110	48.5	0.909090909	1	0	0.909090909
9/27/17 21:50	Football	NFL	Game	Pittsburgh Steelers	Baltimore Ravens	Point Spread	Baltimore Ravens	110	2.5	1	0	1	-1
9/27/17 21:50	Football	NFL	Game	Buffalo Bills	Atlanta Falcons	Total	Buffalo Bills	-110	48.5	0.909090909	0	1	-1
9/27/17 21:50	Football	NFL	Game	New York Giants	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	Point Spread	Tampa Bay Buccaneers	-110	-3	0.909090909	0	1	-1
9/27/17 21:51	Football	NFL	Game	San Francisco 49ers	Arizona Cardinals	Point Spread	Arizona Cardinals	120	-7.5	1	0	1	-1
9/27/17 21:51	Football	NFL	Game	Oakland Raiders	Denver Broncos	Point Spread	Oakland Raiders	105	2.5	1	0	1	-1
10/7/17 19:28	Football	NFL	Game	Los Angeles Chargers	New York Giants	Total	New York Giants	-110	45.5	0.909090909	0	1	-1
10/7/17 19:28	Football	NFL	Game	Buffalo Bills	Cincinnati Bengals	Point Spread	Cincinnati Bengals	-125	-3	0.8	1	0	0.8
10/7/17 19:28	Football	NFL	Game	Buffalo Bills	Cincinnati Bengals	Total	Cincinnati Bengals	-110	39.5	0.909090909	1	0	0.909090909
10/7/17 19:29	Football	NFL	Game	New York Jets	Cleveland Browns	Point Spread	Cleveland Browns	-110	0	0.909090909	0	1	-1
10/7/17 19:29	Football	NFL	Game	New York Jets	Cleveland Browns	Total	Cleveland Browns	-110	40	0.909090909	1	0	0.909090909
10/7/17 19:29	Football	NFL	Game	Jacksonville Jaguars	Pittsburgh Steelers	Point Spread	Jacksonville Jaguars	-130	8.5	0.769230769	1	0	0.769230769
10/7/17 19:29	Football	NFL	Game	Jacksonville Jaguars	Pittsburgh Steelers	Total	Pittsburgh Steelers	-110	43	0.909090909	1	0	0.909090909
10/7/17 19:29	Football	NFL	Game	Tennessee Titans	Miami Dolphins	Point Spread	Miami Dolphins	-105	2.5	0.952380952	1	0	0.952380952
10/7/17 19:29	Football	NFL	Game	Tennessee Titans	Miami Dolphins	Total	Miami Dolphins	-110	43	0.909090909	1	0	0.909090909
10/7/17 19:29	Football	NFL	Game	San Francisco 49ers	Indianapolis Colts	Point Spread	Indianapolis Colts	-125	0	0.8	1	0	0.8
10/7/17 19:30	Football	NFL	Game	San Francisco 49ers	Indianapolis Colts	Total	Indianapolis Colts	-110	45	0.909090909	0	1	-1
10/7/17 19:30	Football	NFL	Game	Arizona Cardinals	Philadelphia Eagles	Point Spread	Arizona Cardinals	-130	7	0.769230769	0	1	-1
10/7/17 19:30	Football	NFL	Game	Arizona Cardinals	Philadelphia Eagles	Total	Philadelphia Eagles	-110	45	0.909090909	1	0	0.909090909
10/7/17 19:30	Football	NFL	Game	Carolina Panthers	Detroit Lions	Point Spread	Carolina Panthers	105	1	1	1	0	1.05
10/7/17 19:30	Football	NFL	Game	Carolina Panthers	Detroit Lions	Total	Detroit Lions	-110	42.5	0.909090909	0	1	-1

I get +0.262520811 as the total.

Nat or Banned or someone - please grab Red's CSV, sort by pick time, and confirm that first 30 picks total, thanks. I don't think there are any illegal picks in there, but I just glanced over it quickly, so please take a look at that too.

Edit: It's not shown in the format I used, but those pick times are down to the second.

Last edited by El Diablo; 10-11-2017 at 07:32 PM.