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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
Their disenfranchisement is an abstraction. If they ask and wish to vote and meet the criterion, their votes will count and they are not disenfranchised. If they don’t care enough to ask to vote, then their disenfranchisement is immaterial, if only because they don’t care about their votes.
This is false. Even after those on my list were reinstated, multiple other OOT posters who meet the criteria have spoken up, some of them longtime regs, and they remain disenfranchised.
Also, voter suppression is a real thing. If you tell a bunch of people they are not allowed to vote, many of them will not vote or ask to vote, even if they might have wished to or voted otherwise. Also, some people vote in the threads but don't read every post in this lengthy discussion thread, and when they see the wrong and immoral disqualification notice in the OP's of each voting thread, they just get upset and go away, even though they deserve to vote.
You should also note that your position is similar to:
1) All people of X race are disqualified from voting.
2) That's wrong and immoral, they should be allowed to vote!
3) Fine, fine, if any person of X race really wants to vote, they can speak up and ask nicely in a non-voting thread, but we're still gonna post notices in every voting thread that people of X race are not allowed to vote.
Is (3) a fair solution to the problem in (1)?
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Lektor’s solution is reasonable and fair given the circumstances, ie deliberate trolling requests in politics threads.
If you were putting in the work to run this contest, then I’d line up behind your solution. But you are not, instead devoting long post after long post to criticize it in an unhelpful way. Here, however, Lektor deserves deference.
This is also false. I am criticizing it in the most helpful way possible - by posting the fair solution. Interestingly, it is also the solution that has been used in almost all of Ms OOT history. Also interestingly, it is the solution that Lektor himself always promised to use and said would be no problem to use...until 35 hrs ago, over halfway through the competition.
It is beyond obvious that the only fair solution is to use the rules from the beginning of the competition, which are the same as the rules for almost the entire history of the contest.
This is the most helpful thing that can be posted at this point, until these fair and historical rules are restored.