Surprisingly enough, though, he's right when it comes to used 737s.

http://www.globalplanesearch.com/usa...ng/737_200.htm

You can get one for under $500k.

This one is $250k:

http://www.aviatorshotline.com/aircr...oeing-737-291a

You can even get a 747 for just $2M.

I don't know if you can get under a million, but those prices are all for new jets.

edit: ninja'd

Most boring conspiracy theory ever:

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03...ectrical-fire/

Theory: There was an electrical fire that took out the transponders and eventually took out the pilots (due to smoke). The plane flew until it either ran out of fuel or the fire got to the wings and crashed into the ocean. The reason for the abrupt left turn was to go to an airport in Langkawi. But the pilots were out of commission before they got there.

Jets are probably like sailboats, you can buy a 50 footer for ten grand or a million bucks. The 50 footer for ten grand will be shall we say a fixer-upper.

You mean 4:20?

So much for "7" being a lucky number

sorry

Cut-pasting that drivel into the thread 4 posts after someone links it and one page after it was discussed extensively is banworthy, surely.

Duh, it is 3:80 on the 24 hour clock. Military time only when you fly.

Only skimmed through this thread as it's moving fast but just want to thanks W0X0F for taking the time to answer a lot of questions.

some one posted that on yahoo too my bad i edited it out

Very excited to see him respond to the cogent question about whether its possible to parachute out of a door in the bottom of a 777.

For reasons why the electrical fire theory has problems see posts 1733 through 1740.
Personally, I think some sort of cockpit fire, smoke, or emergency event occurred is still as plausible as anything else. The past records and personal lives of the two pilots record are so clean. There was little or no evidence of any capable terrorist or hijacker aboard.

If the plane either landed at or crashed into Camp Justice(since renamed Camp Thunder Cove-lol) is it possible for it to be covered up?

Why is this report about the plane being spotted in the Maldives getting so much play? Surely that's impossible given the Inmarsat data.

Like, even though all the data hasn't been released, they were getting pings every hour. It's not like they just got that last one. If you look at the pings it's going to be impossible the thing went over the Maldives.

Wow this seems like pertinent information, did we know this already? From NBC News:

It has to be him then, surely? Also why did ATC not ask him wtf he was doing? Maybe woxof can weigh in.

What I dont understand is why there is no official comment on the 2:11-7:11 inmarsat pings. Those-- presumably would go a long way in figuring out the path of the plane.

Even if you have 1 satellite hit at 8:11, how hard is it to start modeling and simulating flight paths based off of 2:11-7:11 pings even if they were also of the 1 satellite hit variety?

Given that there are 4 satellites and we're talking a relatively confined area in a smallish time frame, it seriously cannot be hard to model the 2:11-8:11 pings, especially since we are relatively sure where the 2:11 ping should truly lie??


Unless of course they feel that the data isnt reliable enough--- in which case, i'd be really worried about ever finding this aircraft

Can you better explain the Inmarsat data? Why was their so much confusion early? The earliest reports of the matter had the plane changing directions and heading towards that area, witnesses in Maldives seeing a low flying large plane flying over, the plane was in the air approximately as long as it would take to get to the camp and the pilot has recently done FlightSim practice landing in the area. It's stunk like a coverup from the start.

Ok, but htf do they know that the "jet's abrupt U-turn was programmed into the on-board computer well before the co-pilot calmly signed off with air traffic controllers"?

They independently confirmed it by thinking about it, obv.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/17/world/...iref=allsearch

it's an extrapolation but should be rock solid in terms of reliability.

Hopefully woxof can also answer this: How can you tell exactly when an autopilot was programmed?

re: used plane prices

i toured the fedex maintenance hangar at LAX about 10 years ago. the manager was telling me that they bought the 727 they were working on for $1 million and were gonna spend $25 million to upgrade the electronics. gives you an idea of the economics of the used plane market.

"Some pilots program an alternate flight plan in the event of an emergency," cautioned Greg Feith, a former National Transportation Safety Board crash investigator and NBC News analyst.

how common is this?

Yes I've read that but why was this data not available at the beginning? Why only confirmed a week+ after the disappearance? More just want to know specifically how the data works and why it wasn't available at the beginning. Early reports have tons of evidence of it flying to the British owned island territory where a US detention and torture base is set up. Now a week later a London-based satellite company says that's impossible. Why did it take so long and why was every country sent on a wild goose chase over a quarter of the globe?