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Malaysia Airlines 777 Disappears: 239 on board. Malaysia Airlines 777 Disappears: 239 on board.

03-16-2014 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by weevil
Would like to see some legitimate sources on the pilot's family leaving him the day before and his having attended the trial of the politician sentenced for "sodomy" on the same day as the flight. If those two things are true, it's pretty easy to suspect the pilot was having an affair with the dude and his wife found out and left him.
Wow. Where are you hearing this from? Link?
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03-16-2014 , 02:12 PM
Hopefully that's a joke.

One suicide possibility is he got out over open ocean, set plane to go south, then somehow killed himself and let auto pilot continue.
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03-16-2014 , 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by LolZombies
Wow. Where are you hearing this from? Link?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-sodomite.html
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03-16-2014 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by LolZombies
Wow. Where are you hearing this from? Link?
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Originally Posted by chisness
Daily Mail (I think a shady paper) is reporting:

-Investigators speak of his 'obsessive' support for opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim
-Attended his trial where he was found guilty, hours before flight
-Believed to be separated or divorced despite living in same house

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-sodomite.html
Several other posts mentioned the family moving out the day before. Just a hot mess of a recipe if he's a politically active atheist and has both a political grudge against his country for jailing a politician he admires on sodomy charges (what?), and the possibility that they were romantically involved and his family left him. Apparently Malaysia doesn't look too kindly on homosexuals. If it's one of the pilots which seems like the most reasonable explanations, that's a pretty clear motivation, but I would imagine major news outlets would pick up on this and so far we only have the Daily Mail, which chisness already pointed out is not the most reliable - I think Brits equate it to our National Enquirer.

Last edited by weevil; 03-16-2014 at 02:22 PM.
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03-16-2014 , 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by weevil
If those two things are true, it's pretty easy to suspect the pilot was having an affair with the dude and his wife found out and left him.
Lol
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03-16-2014 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by chisness
Typical of the mail to completely destroy a mans name and reputuation on pure speculation.
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03-16-2014 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by chisness
Hopefully that's a joke.

One suicide possibility is he got out over open ocean, set plane to go south, then somehow killed himself and let auto pilot continue.
This theory keeps coming back but in order for this to have happened he would have had to actually kill the co-pilot as he can't keep him locked out when incapacitated due to how the system works.

@W0X0F
I take it the pilot/co-pilot are the only ones with the access code ?
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03-16-2014 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by chisness
Hopefully that's a joke.

One suicide possibility is he got out over open ocean, set plane to go south, then somehow killed himself and let auto pilot continue.
Does anyone know how autopilots work in 777's? Do they go straight line toward destination or can you program multiple direction / elevation changes?
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03-16-2014 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by weevil
Several other posts mentioned the family moving out the day before. Just a hot mess of a recipe if he's a politically active atheist and has both a political grudge against his country for jailing a politician he admires on sodomy charges (what?), and the possibility that they were romantically involved and his family left him. Apparently Malaysia doesn't look too kindly on homosexuals. If it's one of the pilots which seems like the most reasonable explanations, that's a pretty clear motivation, but I would imagine major news outlets would pick up on this and so far we only have the Daily Mail, which chisness already pointed out is not the most reliable - I think Brits equate it to our National Enquirer.
will people please stop acting as if him being an atheist had anything to do with whatever decision he made if in fact he made one. It just makes you sound really really stupid
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03-16-2014 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Alobar
will people please stop acting as if him being an atheist had anything to do with whatever decision he made if in fact he made one. It just makes you sound really really stupid
God smited him.
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03-16-2014 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jmakinmecrzy
12k feet is a threshold for a lot of people to start to get altitude sickness symptoms. I'm hiking a 12k this summer and am nervous because altitude affects me horribly.

Can't even imagine 20k+.
This and everything else people have been saying. I just spent a month at 9k feet coming straight from sea level and no major issues. That being said it wasn't until the end of the month that I wasn't dying in my workouts. Go to 12k and it starts to get ugly quick. Climbing at fourteener in CO was brutal even at my best shape.

I had a buddy who is in decent shape but never spent time at altitude pass out just from climbing three flights of stairs.

For Everest you spend as much as a month at 16k to 17k feet to acclimatize.
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03-16-2014 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Alobar
will people please stop acting as if him being an atheist had anything to do with whatever decision he made if in fact he made one. It just makes you sound really really stupid
I know you're not stupid Alobar, but being an atheist in Malaysia or any other fundamental Islamic country is not the same as being an atheist in the west. If the guy has strong political views, that factors in to it quite a bit, especially when this politician whose trial he attended was charged for violating religious laws (sodomy). The pilot and this politician were both part of an opposition party to the traditional Islamic party in power.
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03-16-2014 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LolZombies
Typical of the mail to completely destroy a mans name and reputuation on pure speculation.
standard dailymail, too stupid to understand that the pilot has 2 houses.
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03-16-2014 , 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Yakmelk
This theory keeps coming back but in order for this to have happened he would have had to actually kill the co-pilot as he can't keep him locked out when incapacitated due to how the system works.

@W0X0F
I take it the pilot/co-pilot are the only ones with the access code ?
He said earlier that pilot inside can reject anyone from entering using access code.

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Originally Posted by weevil
Several other posts mentioned the family moving out the day before. Just a hot mess of a recipe if he's a politically active atheist and has both a political grudge against his country for jailing a politician he admires on sodomy charges (what?), and the possibility that they were romantically involved and his family left him. Apparently Malaysia doesn't look too kindly on homosexuals. If it's one of the pilots which seems like the most reasonable explanations, that's a pretty clear motivation, but I would imagine major news outlets would pick up on this and so far we only have the Daily Mail, which chisness already pointed out is not the most reliable - I think Brits equate it to our National Enquirer.
The homosexual claim is a major stretch that you seem to have just made up. The sodomy charge is from 2008 and based on Wikipedia seems like there was not great evidence for it and the timing/charges have political motivations

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The decision by the Kuala Lumpur Court of Appeal came late on 7 March 2014 as Anwar prepared to contest a state by-election on 23 March he was expected to win, opening the way for him to become the chief minister of Selangor state, the country’s main economic hub surrounding Kuala Lumpur. Human rights groups have accused Malaysia’s government of using an anachronistic colonial era law that criminalises “carnal intercourse against the order of nature” to persecute 66-year-old Anwar, who leads a three-party opposition that is increasingly popular in the predominantly Muslim nation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_I...s#Second_trial
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03-16-2014 , 03:23 PM
case closed

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03-16-2014 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Yakmelk
This theory keeps coming back but in order for this to have happened he would have had to actually kill the co-pilot as he can't keep him locked out when incapacitated due to how the system works.

@W0X0F
I take it the pilot/co-pilot are the only ones with the access code ?
I believe that's true, but now that I think of it...maybe the flight attendants have it too. I'll ask on my trip this Tuesday (20 hour layover in Las Vegas ). I've never heard a flight attendant mention it or even express any interest or knowledge of the access keypad.
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03-16-2014 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
I fear the plane might not be found. This mystery story could just fizzle out.
I think the longer this goes with no news will equate to even more conjecture. Aliens, alternate worlds, hidden islands, etc.

The dollars being spent are in the hundreds of millions. I think the world is pot committed to see this to the bitter end.
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03-16-2014 , 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by e1cnr
Does anyone know how autopilots work in 777's? Do they go straight line toward destination or can you program multiple direction / elevation changes?
Yes, you can program in an entire route of flight (which is the norm) and it will follow that lateral route. For altitude changes, you can put in altitudes associated with various fixes on the route and it will either climb or descend to cross that fix at the specified altitude, but only if the higher or lower altitude has been set on the Mode Control Panel (MCP). Thus you could have it do a series of climbs or a series of descents, but you couldn't have it mix up climbs and descents without intervention.

Example: I have a route programmed from A to B to C to D. I have an initial altitude of 35000 and I have an altitude of 28000 set for B and then 15000 set for C. If I set 15000 on the MCP and fly in VNAV mode, the plane will fly the course and descend to cross B at 28000, where it will level off. It will begin a descent to 15000 at the appropriate time so that it crosses C at that altitude. Note: if I leave 35000 on the MCP, the descents will not happen and there's no way to have it automatically climb back up.

Last edited by W0X0F; 03-16-2014 at 03:53 PM. Reason: Left out a word
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03-16-2014 , 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by chisness
He said earlier that pilot inside can reject anyone from entering using access code.
Yeah, thats why Im saying he cant just lock out co-pilot, turn on auto pilot and kill himself because after 60 seconds of not responding the lock will be opened.

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Originally Posted by golfnutt
I think the longer this goes with no news will equate to even more conjecture. Aliens, alternate worlds, hidden islands, etc.

The dollars being spent are in the hundreds of millions. I think the world is pot committed to see this to the bitter end.
Maybe someone will even argue that crashing airplanes get as hot as volcano's, its anyones guess now!
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03-16-2014 , 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by econophile
is it possible that the plane is stuck on a treadmill somewhere?
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03-16-2014 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Yakmelk
Yeah, thats why Im saying he cant just lock out co-pilot, turn on auto pilot and kill himself because after 60 seconds of not responding the lock will be opened.
The idea behind that theory is it wouldn't be difficult for the pilot to kill everyone on board except himself. Then he can easily set the autopilot and take off his own oxygen mask, or he can re-pressurize the cabin and do whatever the hell he wants until the plane runs out of fuel.
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03-16-2014 , 04:13 PM
Exactly, which as I was pointing out would be a must for this theory to be true.
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03-16-2014 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by W0X0F
I believe that's true, but now that I think of it...maybe the flight attendants have it too. I'll ask on my trip this Tuesday (20 hour layover in Las Vegas ). I've never heard a flight attendant mention it or even express any interest or knowledge of the access keypad.
got ****faced with a pilot and my gf at the time in Niagara Falls many years ago, is it true that pilots have to go 24 hours w/o alcohol before their flight?

just curious I guess. he stopped drinking with us, and I asked, and he said he had a red eye 24 hours from then or something..
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03-16-2014 , 04:33 PM
Indian regulation is 8 if I recall - a pilot got done here recently (UK) for being over the limit prior to the return leg to India.
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03-16-2014 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Yakmelk
Exactly, which as I was pointing out would be a must for this theory to be true.
Which fits the narrative of the plane climbing and falling in altitude. I am not sure what you are questioning. I think depressurizing/climbing in altitude while the co-pilot wasn't in the cockpit is all part of the same theory.
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