This seems like it would be due to actual penetration by a penis that's way too large for them. All they were doing in this case was licking and touching them a little bit. They were too small to penetrate.

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All they were doing in this case was licking and touching them a little bit. They were too small to penetrate.
All they were doing in this case was licking and touching them a little bit. They were too small to penetrate.
All they were doing in this case was licking and touching them a little bit. They were too small to penetrate.
All they were doing in this case was licking and touching them a little bit. They were too small to penetrate.
All they were doing in this case was licking and touching them a little bit. They were too small to penetrate.



except, y'know - he attempted penetration and also the infants were digitally penetrated as well.

read what you actually just wrote and then take yourself out of the general population.

Thread is picking up haha

Seriously though there is just something wrong with the legal system when this guy doesn't get put in jail until he dies.

I really hope you aren't an American

35 years is super harsh for UK standards . He should just have his life taken though

Jesus iggy and that cyde guy wtf. Get help before you hurt someone

I can believe this story but I can not believe this thread, wtf is wrong with you people

Iggy

even if some bizzarro world the point you're trying to make is correct, do you REALLY feel the need to be the guy who says "GUYS GUYS IT'S JUST BABY RAPE, I DON'T SEE THE BIG DEAL."

really? that's something you feel has to be said here?

I wish I had seen this before hastily clicking it, I didn't get very far. If I had a sponsor, I would be calling him now.

I wouldnt let this Iggy guy or the other sociopath itt within 10 feet of my kid

Almost ban worthy

There isnt a sicker crime you can commit, the guy should burn

So 8 years sounds just about right to you?

Aren't pointless random arguments the whole reason that the internet was created? I already said I was fine with the 35 years for homeboy. If anything the sentences on the chicks seem kinda harsh since they were basically manipulated into everything they did and are probably super low risk to re-offend.

You're a ****ed up guy, iggymcfly.

I regret reading this but not as much as i regret the fact that they wont be punished as much as they should be

Your style of prose and choice of words are betraying you.
Towards the end of the pre-trial arguments, a lot was being made in court of whether or not the videos were sufficient to prove actual rape. Then they gave up on that, and he was admitting attempted rape, and even his defence were admitting that given the seriousness of what was going on, whether or not he actually achieved it was going to make little difference for sentencing purposes. We're talking a *baby* here, man. Seek some help.

Great point by someone else about the intrinsic evil of some actions regardless of consequences, taboo runs deep in human society, often with good reason.

35 years IS a lot by UK standards, this isn't the USA we're talking about. This is beyond 99 percent of murder tariffs, rape, anything. From what I hear, it's genuinely a tough job being a prison guard, being able to protect all the time. He probably won't make it. Maybe by his own hand.

Oh yeah, and back in the day, we would have been able to say 'lock him up, 35 years', but we can't now, because of European legislation. Places like...Belgium, telling us how to handle our paedophiles.

I ****ing knew it, terrible musicians are evil. Someone should look into Chad Kroeger.

iggy, just ****ing stop.

You're making your point it the stupidest way possible and coming off like a sociopath. Even our resident APD thinks there's something wrong with you at this point.

This is a late contender for poty imo. Was reading it at somebody else's house on phone and couldn't contain my laughter.

From South park's Free Hat episode:

"Well, first of all, both George and I are very firmly against the murdering of toddlers."

iggy gets banned from SE and takes his trolling to OOT

who could have seen this coming?

I'm just going with this. I was going to quote one of iggy's posts and I felt too dirty and couldn't continue. My specialty was dealing with ten to fifteen year old students, so of course, I have testified in many cases over the years and am familiar with the problem.

My work with middle school age children who seemed to have no conscience, led me to study much of the "failure to bond research" dealing with the first few years of life. There is indeed a direct link to mental problems later in life due to abuse before the age of three. Many feel (as I do now) that this type of abuse is even more profound on the psyche (and ultimate development of the child) than abuse later in life (obviously, it's all bad).

To say that it doesn't really hurt them if they don't have a conscious memory of the act is absurd. I'm assuming that the two people in the thread saying that, have no actual knowledge of the research and are just playing the fool. I'm also gathering that this spouting of ignorance is standard form for you, so from now on I will register your posts in my head as "too stupid to read".

Watkins is the kind of sick **** you wish fell into the hands of someone like Lenny Murphy.

What point is he trying to make again?

With regards to the main offender, he seemed (to me) to be making the point that, at least in his mind, it wasn't quite as bad as molesting an older child (due to conscious recall) or as bad as penile rape (since, you know, they just touched and licked the kid a little bit).

Which is both factually false for the first (conscious recall is not necessary to experience significant damage from traumatic events) and viscerally disgusting albeit understandable for the second (the larger/more painful the object used to violate, the more heinous that violation may seem).

I'm not going to resurrect the entire finger rape fiasco from the Steubenville thread, but I can understand on an intellectual level how one might think that touching/licking/digital penetration is not as bad as penile rape. However, as jmakin pointed out, do you really need to be the person defending any type of baby rape here? The defendant was obviously a sick ****ing bastard and the kid was violated, if in not the most disgusting way we can fathom, certainly in a disgusting enough way that most people are horrified by it. There's no reason to defend the degree here, even if such defense is technically possible.