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View Poll Results: Leukaemia vs Diabetes

Leukaemia

8 4.76%

Diabetes

160 95.24%

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03-28-2012 , 01:56 PM

#76

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Originally Posted by Teebor

and you have to tell future mating partners that you have diabetes, reducing your chances of secks because obviously potential partners don't want to pass that stuff on to their kids?

quick google says:
for type 1, men have a 5.9% chance of passing it on to his kid. for women under 25 it's 4%, after 25 it's 1%,

for fatass type 2s it's up to 50% but problems with women from self-induced diabetes > problems from having it

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03-28-2012 , 02:19 PM

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z28dreams

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Diabetes, but that's not fun either, since it will ultimately lead to heart disease.

The funny thing is, probably half the people posting in this thread already have pre-diabetes but don't know it.

Every single person alive should be checking their a1c level ($9 test from walmart). If it's above 5%, you are pre-diabetic. Doctors consider > 6.5% diabetic, which is insane. Should be at least 6% or lower.

A cheap meter is $18, and you can test post-meals.

Below 100 = safe
110 = getting high
120 = light damage starts to begin
140 = lots of damage starts to begin
200+ = what doctors consider diabetic

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03-28-2012 , 02:24 PM

#78

kazzzz

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diabetes. One of my best friend has it and its not such a big deal once you are used to it

Last edited by kazzzz; 03-28-2012 at 02:25 PM. Reason: he has type 1

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03-28-2012 , 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kazzzz

diabetes. One of my best friend has it and its not such a big deal once you are used to it

Ya, it's pretty controllable in the short term, but years of high blood sugar levels and glycation = serious disease down the road. I've been researching health and nutrition for the last 3 months and there is almost nothing correlated more closely to health that I've found than blood sugar levels.

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03-28-2012 , 02:39 PM

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z28, you can also request that your doctor run an a1c blood test during an annual physical. A lot of insurance plans pay for 1 physical a year so it's a good time to just get it checked with your regular bloodwork.

I think a lot of people itt are young and still stick-thin weaklings but there are certainly some fatties who are pre-diabetic or maybe even diabetic and don't know it yet. Of course being fat isn't necessary. You can be thin and eat horribly and probably still develop diabetes.

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03-28-2012 , 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by prohornblower

z28, you can also request that your doctor run an a1c blood test during an annual physical. A lot of insurance plans pay for 1 physical a year so it's a good time to just get it checked with your regular bloodwork.

I think a lot of people itt are young and still stick-thin weaklings but there are certainly some fatties who are pre-diabetic or maybe even diabetic and don't know it yet. Of course being fat isn't necessary. You can be thin and eat horribly and probably still develop diabetes.

I know plenty of thin people with normal BMI's that are type II or pre-diabetic. You should definitely not use weight as sole indicator.

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03-28-2012 , 03:27 PM

#82

jmakin

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Yea and there are thin people with heart disease, but let's be real here, most diabetics are fattays.

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03-28-2012 , 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jmakinmecrzy

Yea and there are thin people with heart disease, but let's be real here, most diabetics are fattays.

Not for Type 1s. Nothing to do with weight.

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03-28-2012 , 03:48 PM

#84

jmakin

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I was taking about type 2, obviously. But even factoring that, overall my statement still probably stands.

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03-28-2012 , 04:15 PM

#85

kerowo

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Originally Posted by z28dreams

I know plenty of thin people with normal BMI's that are type II or pre-diabetic. You should definitely not use weight as sole indicator.

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Originally Posted by jmakinmecrzy

Yea and there are thin people with heart disease, but let's be real here, most diabetics are fattays.

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Originally Posted by Pavster

Not for Type 1s. Nothing to do with weight.

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Originally Posted by jmakinmecrzy

I was taking about type 2, obviously. But even factoring that, overall my statement still probably stands.

Zzzzzzz

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03-28-2012 , 04:57 PM

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It must suck for Type 1s that Type 2 is becoming such an epidemic now that nobody cares about the Type 1s anymore.

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03-28-2012 , 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by LotsOfOuts69

WTF is this thread. I am a type 1 diabetic. It is a manageable disease and you can live a long fulfilling regular life and you are comparing it to freaking CANCER with a 20% chance of dying?

Get a clue OP. ban /end thread

Thank goodness you got here first. Diabetes itself does not have complications. Unmanaged diabetes does.

People that don't make insulin themselves (t1 diabetes ldo) just have to match their insulin to what they eat. They can eat anything they bloody well please.

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03-28-2012 , 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jmakinmecrzy

lol @ this thread. My dad had type 2, eventually lost a ton of weight and the blood sugar levels basically stopped swinging around like crazy. Occasionally he would prick his finger if he felt weird, and kept hard candies for hypoglycemia and insulin in case of an emergency. AFAIK in the last few years of his life he never took the insulin and was fine; the symptoms of diabetes were pretty much absent completely.

LOL @ the OP's arguments

At UTSW there is a huge push of fat-related theory of type 2 DM, you'll probably see the literature pushed towards exercise instead of drugs/insulin to treat diabetes in the future.

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03-28-2012 , 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jmakinmecrzy

I was taking about type 2, obviously. But even factoring that, overall my statement still probably stands.

i concur,

90% of diabetes are type 2 in the USA, and i don't know a think type 2 diabetic (sample size small)

so.... i concur

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03-28-2012 , 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dchz

At UTSW there is a huge push of fat-related theory of type 2 DM, you'll probably see the literature pushed towards exercise instead of drugs/insulin to treat diabetes in the future.

True but I don't agree with your prediction. The drug companies don't make money by encouraging people to eat right and exercise. It is the drug companies with the big budgets 'educating' the doctors to prescribe more drugs.

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03-28-2012 , 06:28 PM

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SaulPaul

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Originally Posted by leo doc

LOL, HB. Perhaps some OOTers would get a bit nauseated by gruesome tales from the ER, but I think there's a fair number that would get a turgid willy by reading them.

It's a moot point anyway, 'cause I wouldn't wanna derail the thread.

Why would you not want to derail a ****ty thread?

Diabetes. i would buy a **** load of miracle berries and still enjoy sweet stuff

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03-28-2012 , 09:00 PM

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samdash

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So basically the OP is saying he'd rather play Russian roulette with only one empty chamber than have diabetes. Classy.

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03-28-2012 , 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by samdash

So basically the OP is saying he'd rather play Russian roulette with only one empty chamber than have diabetes. Classy.

Some people choose work; some people choose sawing their foot off.

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03-28-2012 , 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Teebor

To all the people saying this is a dumb poll, I suggest you you take a wander down to the hospital and ask to see all the people with diabetes who got a cut on their foot and now have no legs from the knees down.

99% of you won't repost this

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03-28-2012 , 10:47 PM

#95

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Originally Posted by prohornblower

But you're supposed to let someone else post this.

Yeah, I tried to wait, but I had to go to sleep and couldn't wait until morning.

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03-29-2012 , 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Teebor

I was really thinking about how almost all girls run a mile when they see me use my asthma inhaler and so it must be even worse for diabetics with the needle, and the hypos, and measuring blood sugar. That's why I would rather take my chances with cancer than be treated like a leper by members of the opposite sex for the rest of my life. I guess using an inhaler is more visible. I should probably have made the poll Leukaemia vs Asthma.

I'm sure if you had leukemia you'd be knee-deep in pussy.

Actually, to make the poll better you should have used this disease. Something like 80% of high school girls said they wouldn't date a guy that had it.

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