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11-08-2014 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by KansasCT
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Lol @ the "overly sentimental" bit. The last time I cried during a movie was during Forrest Gump. I really hate movies that try really hard to make you cry but this one wasn't one of those imo. His relationship with his daughter was very real to me. Couldn't stop but tear up a bit in that scene where he watches the 23 years of footage. So awesome...
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That video montage of watching 23 years go by for his kids was moving and the most well-done emotional scene I think. Hathaway's "love conquers all" monologue was cringe worthy (and yes I get that we weren't supposed to agree with the character necessarily) and all of the times it was obvious we were encouraged by Nolan to intensely feel, I just didn't. There were so many characters that weren't developed enough for it to work: Wes Bentley was a waste of an awesome actor and the character functioned as a "Crewman #6" type, Murph's brother could have been explored a lot more, Hathaway's love for that other dude didn't get any explanation, Murph's "ghost" scenes were so brief in the beginning that the big reveal was meh, adult Murph had very little time on screen to connect to her.

If it worked for other people then great. Nolan is one of the most ambitious directors around and it's worth checking out. Visuals are very good.
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11-08-2014 , 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by euler217
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That video montage of watching 23 years go by for his kids was moving and the most well-done emotional scene I think. Hathaway's "love conquers all" monologue was cringe worthy (and yes I get that we weren't supposed to agree with the character necessarily) and all of the times it was obvious we were encouraged by Nolan to intensely feel, I just didn't. There were so many characters that weren't developed enough for it to work: Wes Bentley was a waste of an awesome actor and the character functioned as a "Crewman #6" type, Murph's brother could have been explored a lot more, Hathaway's love for that other dude didn't get any explanation, Murph's "ghost" scenes were so brief in the beginning that the big reveal was meh, adult Murph had very little time on screen to connect to her.

If it worked for other people then great. Nolan is one of the most ambitious directors around and it's worth checking out. Visuals are very good.
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I don't think we need any explanation as to why Hathaway's character loved that guy. The same way we didn't need to see Cooper meeting her in the end. Some things are so obvious and trivial we don't really need any more explanation.
About Murph. Why would we need to connect to her adult self if we already connected with her as a child? We already know who she is, we are already connected to her, there's no need to do that again, she still the same intelligent, stubborn girl as before.
I agree with the "love" monologue though, and that's by far my biggest complaint about the movie. I was hoping Cooper would say something like "yeah, that's bull****, we are still going to Manns planet.". He did choose the other country though, so that's kinda OK. I say kinda because in the end love IS a really important variable and I just didn't really like that route.

And since we're talking about bad moments, the nut low has to be when Mann says "you literally woke me(?) up from the dead" and Cooper replies with" Lazarus..." lol
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11-08-2014 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Hoya
shocked at the mostly positive reactions given the absolutely moronic last 30 minutes
Basically agree with this, I thought the first 90 minutes were great, then felt that it dragged on too long and was very disappointed by the ending. Definitely my least favorite Nolan movie. The acting and CGI were incredible though.
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11-08-2014 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bbfg
My Nolan rankings

Interstellar
Inception
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
The Prestige
Does Insomia count?
The Dark Knight Rises

Yes I'm weird and I like BB more than TDK.

I also haven't seen Memento because I'm a terrible person .
I like Batman Begins more than the Dark Knight Rises too, thats probably because I enjoy the setting in movies a lot.

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My only complain, and it may just be a personal gripe, was the sound effects volume level relative to the dialogue. A lot of the dialogue I couldn't understand because the other sounds were so loud in comparison. I guess it could have been my theatre but idk.
Isnt this the case with every movie? I can hardly hear half of the dialogue because of this, damn hollywood.

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Originally Posted by Hoya
shocked at the mostly positive reactions given the absolutely moronic last 30 minutes
Yeah last 30 minutes were a little ridiculous, and they were explained pretty poorly. Seemed like nolan needed 3 hours, if thats even possible.

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Originally Posted by Misfitsbeevers
I've been looking forward for this movie for a year. Saw it last night in IMAX, was a little bit different than I imagined. I would classify this as a drama, above all else that is the strong part of the movie. My girlfriend cried multiple time and I teared up at least 4 times, so yeah, emotional and dramatic.
You cried? I cant remember being on the verge at all, and i get emotional at movies ocassionally too. I guess you were crying at the interaction between Matthew Mcconaughey's character and Murphy.
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11-08-2014 , 06:09 PM
Add me to the list that thinks BB > TDK.

I think both were really flawed, BB at least created/introduced that new world of Gotham which I really liked so that gets bonus points.
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11-08-2014 , 07:44 PM
I loved it, but I am really interested in all that theoretical physics stuff.
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11-08-2014 , 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by cobrakai111
Add me to the list that thinks BB > TDK.

I think both were really flawed, BB at least created/introduced that new world of Gotham which I really liked so that gets bonus points.
As far as world building, though, it doesn't even come close to 1989 Batman.
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11-08-2014 , 08:26 PM
So... My opinion of the movie depends very much on the answer to this question:

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Quoting an article to quickly outline the reveal:

"the aliens were in fact advanced humans from the future. They apparently created the black hole and wormhole in the first place, manipulating time and events so things had to unfold the way they did"

I get this and I was expecting the reveal to be something like this. Except it doesn't explain how the wormhole was created in the first place.

The wormhole was created by future advanced humans. But how did those future advanced humans ever come to be?
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11-08-2014 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Thingyman
So... My opinion of the movie depends very much on the answer to this question:

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Quoting an article to quickly outline the reveal:

"the aliens were in fact advanced humans from the future. They apparently created the black hole and wormhole in the first place, manipulating time and events so things had to unfold the way they did"

I get this and I was expecting the reveal to be something like this. Except it doesn't explain how the wormhole was created in the first place.

The wormhole was created by future advanced humans. But how did those future advanced humans ever come to be?
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You gotta make your own conclusions and assumptions to answer that question, it's not spelled out in the movie. It's a time travel paradox, but a satisfying answer for me revolves around Murphy's Law which was mentioned multiple times in the movie. If you assume parallel universes, then in one of the universes humans survived long enough to transcend to 5-dimensional beings (murphy's law). Once that happened, the new human's exist outside of time and space so they can do whatever they want. If they wanna put a bookcase bridge in the middle of a blackhole then they can, and it will always have been there is all universes because that's just the way it is with 5-dimensional craziness.

if you don't like using parallel universes, then you can assume that it wasn't humans who made the wormhole but was in fact another species of 5-dimensional beings, sharing the knowledge with humans.
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11-08-2014 , 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by imjosh
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You gotta make your own conclusions and assumptions to answer that question, it's not spelled out in the movie. It's a time travel paradox, but a satisfying answer for me revolves around Murphy's Law which was mentioned multiple times in the movie. If you assume parallel universes, then in one of the universes humans survived long enough to transcend to 5-dimensional beings (murphy's law). Once that happened, the new human's exist outside of time and space so they can do whatever they want. If they wanna put a bookcase bridge in the middle of a blackhole then they can, and it will always have been there is all universes because that's just the way it is with 5-dimensional craziness
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This is how I took it, the humans in the timeline we see don't have to be the same humans in the future
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11-08-2014 , 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by imjosh
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You gotta make your own conclusions and assumptions to answer that question, it's not spelled out in the movie. It's a time travel paradox, but a satisfying answer for me revolves around Murphy's Law which was mentioned multiple times in the movie. If you assume parallel universes, then in one of the universes humans survived long enough to transcend to 5-dimensional beings (murphy's law). Once that happened, the new human's exist outside of time and space so they can do whatever they want. If they wanna put a bookcase bridge in the middle of a blackhole then they can, and it will always have been there is all universes because that's just the way it is with 5-dimensional craziness.

if you don't like using parallel universes, then you can assume that it wasn't humans who made the wormhole but was in fact another species of 5-dimensional beings, sharing the knowledge with humans.
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Thanks for this answer, a lot.

This is very interesting. So I'm somewhat disappointed with the movie for not explaining this - I feel like it's a plot hole. I don't feel it should be left up to the viewer's interpretation - at least not in this specific manner. I somewhat dig your parallel universe theory though. If only the movie had presented that :P
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11-08-2014 , 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Thingyman
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Thanks for this answer, a lot.

This is very interesting. So I'm somewhat disappointed with the movie for not explaining this - I feel like it's a plot hole. I don't feel it should be left up to the viewer's interpretation - at least not in this specific manner. I somewhat dig your parallel universe theory though. If only the movie had presented that :P
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Nah, I don't think it's a plot hole. I figured that was the deal when I saw it. The humans are our descendents, just really a long time in the future. It brings up a typical movie device - the time paradox. If these guys don't do all this stuff, humans would not have survived to make it to this other planet. That the article authors thought the future humans could, or would, make a black hole is LOL. There are plenty of them already out there.

It's also kinda dumb to even consider moving to a planet orbiting a black hole. They're not exactly stable and can grow in size whenever something comes by and falls in. That could extend the event horizon and poof, destroy your new home planet. Besides, they have horrendous radiation around them.

Nolan made one big mistake in assuming his general audience knows a certain amount of physics. Judging from the posts itt, that's far from true.


I thought Inception was much better than this one. DiCaprio sucked as an actor, but the story had a lot more imagination.
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11-08-2014 , 11:18 PM
Having come back from Interstellar just now and it is definitely a polarizing film. For that reason alone, I definitely think its worth a look. More than that, it stirs up more wonder, curiosity, and emotion than any other Nolan film. I think its his strongest film and if I were to make an order of his films I've seen, I would go

Interstellar
The Dark Knight
Momento
Prestige
Batman Begins
Inception
The Dark Knight Rises
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11-08-2014 , 11:27 PM
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The article saying future humans created the black hole is just a screw up right? I thought the movie made it clear the wormhole was created by future humans/advanced beings, not the black hole
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11-08-2014 , 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ntanygd760
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The article saying future humans created the black hole is just a screw up right? I thought the movie made it clear the wormhole was created by future humans/advanced beings, not the black hole
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Not a screwup. The black hole might not have been a future human creation but the 3 dimensional bookshelf representation inside, the "tesseract" ,definitely was as it gets removed as soon as Cooper's message to his daughter gets through.
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11-09-2014 , 12:00 AM
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yeah you are right. Also enjoyed seeing someone trying to show 5 dimensions, I liked the way they went. Also awesome depiction of a black hole. Very accurate from most of what I have read about it.


Another article on the subject
http://www.wired.com/2014/10/astroph...ar-black-hole/
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11-09-2014 , 12:05 AM
I'll repost my question from the Lounge

My biggest logic based issue with Interstellar was actually this

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How is a team of 4 astronauts expected to raise babies in space in the plan B scenario ? Where would the supplies to raise these embryos come from? Even if there was enough supplies to start a colony, there would be simply no manpower for maintaining a colony on a foreign planet and raising even 10 children. Even if you raise the kids in groups, none of the crew seem fit to psychologically raise these children to avoid 'Lord of the Fly' scenarios and going along with the plan of raising the remaining embryos.
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11-09-2014 , 12:19 AM
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I mean man survived before we had fire, I think a bunch of smart people could manage. You can easily grow enough food, assuming they also have seeds ect that they took with them. After the first group of kids gets old enough then they can do so many tasks. Would be an interesting dynamic for sure but humans would carry on.
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11-09-2014 , 12:24 AM
I was so pumped for the movie but I couldn't suspend belief in the last 30 minutes when he was in that
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11-09-2014 , 01:10 AM
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When they are spinning to match the out of control space station, Amelia passes out from the G-forces...and then her arms etc start floating...wouldn't they still be pinned down whether conscious or not?
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11-09-2014 , 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by CharlieDontSurf
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When they are spinning to match the out of control space station, Amelia passes out from the G-forces...and then her arms etc start floating...wouldn't they still be pinned down whether conscious or not?
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From my limited knowledge the g's accelerating to the spin rate made her black out, once they match the spin rate most of the g's stop. Her hand probably wouldn't do that. Just made a good visual image to tell the audience she blacked out.
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11-09-2014 , 01:45 AM
Movie was absolutely preposterous. Aside from getting the science wrong in every category from the spaceship design to time dilation to the black hole, Nolan completely copped out and fell back on easy storytelling gimmicks such as convenient catastrophe's, a villain, and that stupid ****ing Jar Jar Binks robot.

Hated this movie, biggest letdown of the year.
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11-09-2014 , 01:54 AM
Must suck to be you. I mean Neil deGrasse Tyson liked it. I find being on his side of an opinion is usually right.
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11-09-2014 , 02:12 AM
Nolan and Fincher are great, they are top tier directors with how they handle film making, atmosphere and just overall touch.
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