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09-24-2018 , 10:39 AM

#3951

daveT

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That article is pure insanity. Great read.

Now I'm going to read about other range wars.

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09-24-2018 , 10:49 AM

#3952

Bluegrassplayer

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If I saw a movie about people named William Willoby Jenkins and William C. Chormicle I think I'd automatically assume it wasn't a true story.

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09-24-2018 , 11:08 AM

#3953

JudgeHoldem

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Castaic area would be a lot more interesting if the war was still raging

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09-24-2018 , 12:38 PM

#3954

daveT

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Here's an article linked to more range wars:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_war

The Pleasant Valley War is just nuts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleasant_Valley_War

It has every bit of drama you can ask for:

The Pleasant Valley War had the highest number of fatalities of such range conflicts in United States history, with an estimated total of 35 to 50 deaths, and the near annihilation of the males of the two feuding families. The Pleasant Valley War gave Arizona Territory a reputation for not being ready for statehood. Years after its end, many books and articles were written about the feud.

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09-24-2018 , 06:04 PM

#3955

JudgeHoldem

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Man that sounds like the novel Blood Meridian

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09-25-2018 , 08:28 PM

#3956

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Chimpanzees do range wars too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War

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09-26-2018 , 06:14 PM

#3957

chillrob

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They didn't follow the Golden rule: Ape not kill ape!

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09-27-2018 , 05:47 PM

#3958

BustrHyman

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skinwalker_Ranch

Ranch in Utah with lots of reports of really crazy shiz

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09-27-2018 , 06:08 PM

#3959

daveT

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_versus_Horse_Marathon

The event started in 1980, when local landlord Gordon Green overheard a discussion between two men in his pub, the Neuadd Arms. One man suggested that over a significant distance across country, man was equal to any horse. Green decided that the challenge should be tested in full public view, and organised the first event.

Proof that the world's best ideas are created while having a drunken debate. A human on foot finally won in 2004.

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09-28-2018 , 09:07 AM

#3960

JudgeHoldem

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Seems crazy that a runner could beat a horse. what am i missing?

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09-28-2018 , 03:02 PM

#3961

daveT

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It seems the humans get a 15 minute start, plus the horses go through some vet checks:

The 2009 race was marred by controversy when the organizers deducted time spent in the 'vet checks' from the horse times in addition to the 15 minutes for the delayed start of the horses.

The article also says the course was extended to 24 miles then shorted back to 21, which apparently leveled the competition in the human's favor.

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09-30-2018 , 09:53 AM

#3962

Mulezen

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Bernd Heinrich the famous scientist (Corvids) is also one of the world’s great eccentric runners. He posits in Why We Run that we are human because we run...points out how hunters in Africa can run down the swiftest prey because we can sweat. When not writing about Bumble Bee Economics he would run great distances
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernd_Heinrich

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09-30-2018 , 05:18 PM

#3963

Feldman

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IIRC correctly he describes people in Australia or Africa hunting deer by foot.

The deer can easily outrun the people initially, but down the way the humans catch up. The deer sprint off again, but eventually the people catch up. Repeat until the deer don't have the stamina to sprint off fast enough to avoid the hunters.

--note-- I could be remembering the anecdote wrong.

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09-30-2018 , 06:34 PM

#3964

Mulezen

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The antelope overheat and the humans hunting in relay spear them like in the example above
Also I don’t believe any horse can run the same distances in the time Heinrich has though no horse has a PhD either

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10-19-2018 , 02:32 PM

#3965

daveT

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Here's an interesting slice of music history:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Music

During the premier of Water Music by Handel, King George and his posse loaded up on a barge on the Thames river, which floated up to another barge containing the orchestra.

The king enjoyed it so much the he ordered it to be played 3 more times.

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10-20-2018 , 04:15 PM

#3966

daveT

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Another interesting piece of music history is The Goree Girls:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goree_...rl_String_Band

The Goree All Girl String Band, popularly known as The Goree Girls, was a band of eight female prisoners of the Goree Unit which performed in the 1940s. It was one of the first all female country and western bands in the United States.

It's a short read, but I thought it was interesting non-the-less.

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10-21-2018 , 10:45 AM

#3967

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I had never heard of either of those, fun reads.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_...xual_selection

Science behind mate selection. I found the "empirical evidence" tab especially interesting and in particular the one where women were asked to rate the smell of a man's odor on his used tshirt.

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10-21-2018 , 08:51 PM

#3968

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radithor

The first energy drink?

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Eben Byers, a wealthy American socialite, athlete, industrialist and Yale College graduate, died from Radithor radium poisoning in 1932.[5] Byers was buried in a lead-lined coffin; when exhumed in 1965 for study, his remains were still highly radioactive.

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10-21-2018 , 10:23 PM

#3969

daveT

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Sounds like the first instance of homeopathy, except Radithor appears to have some side effects.

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10-21-2018 , 10:39 PM

#3970

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Originally Posted by that_pope

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radithor

The first energy drink?

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Originally Posted by daveT

Sounds like the first instance of homeopathy, except Radithor appears to have some side effects.

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A Wall Street Journal article (1989 or later) describing the Byers incident was titled "The Radium Water Worked Fine Until His Jaw Came Off".

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10-22-2018 , 07:11 AM

#3971

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Slovik

The only soldier executed for desertion in ww2.

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10-22-2018 , 07:30 AM

#3972

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Originally Posted by Falconhoof

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Slovik

The only American soldier tried and executed for desertion in ww2.

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10-22-2018 , 10:13 AM

#3973

that_pope

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yeah, much better edit. i know Russia was known for mowing down anyone retreating.

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10-22-2018 , 10:44 AM

#3974

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Slovik

The only soldier executed for desertion in ww2.

I read a book about Slovik when I was a teen. I was divided then about the outcome and remain so now.

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10-22-2018 , 10:50 AM

#3975

Howard Treesong

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Some quick research: the Wehrmacht executed about 15000 soldiers for desertion and the Russian army 158000.

102 American service personnel were executed by American authorities during the war, but Slovik was the only deserter. The others were executed for either rape or murder.

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