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06-02-2008 , 02:19 PM
At the point when she told me that the bill was $113 and not $100 I would of been like Oh it was? Ok can I get my $7 change back plz?
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06-02-2008 , 02:25 PM
I would have just laughed in her face and calmly exited the premises. Also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5ODhIFawfs
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06-02-2008 , 03:10 PM
I'm not the sort of person who ever complains about bad service in some sort of petty attempt to get people fired, but I'd be sorely tempted here. I don't care if it was a mistake, I don't care if the bill was actually $119. Once the customer leaves his or her tip the transaction is over. Sometimes you get ****ed over by bitchy or inattentive customers. **** happens. Cope. You make it up when generous or drunk customers tip $20 on a $30 tab. I doubt very much the waitress is like "Dude you know you just tipped me 66%, right?" in that situation.
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06-02-2008 , 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by z28dreams
Henry,

What's your standard rule for tipping on wine?

For some of the bigger wine enthusiasts, a meal might look something like this:

food: $300
wine: $1200

What would you tip in that situation?
(a) 20% of total ( $300 )
(b) some kind of pro-rated tip, say 20% on food, 10% on wine ( $180 )
(c) other
If this were me and the meal was excellent and the service excellent, I would probably tip $400.
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06-02-2008 , 03:19 PM
Never go back. Do you know what some disgruntled waitstaff do to customers that they think wronged them? Unless you like saliva, stay away.
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06-02-2008 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Henry17
Under your tipping guidelines I'd be leaving $3 on $120 tabs

wow, hanging out at Jimmyz in monte carlo much?
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06-02-2008 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ilikeaces86_
At the point when she told me that the bill was $113 and not $100 I would of been like Oh it was? Ok can I get my $7 change back plz?
Perfect.
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06-02-2008 , 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Henry17
Except I'm not banned from any bars and I get great service.
You realize there are millions of people in this country who aren't banned from any bars and get great service and don't feel the need to give $20 just because someone asked? You're the sucker here, not everyone else.
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06-02-2008 , 03:47 PM
Henry, can you please construct an Excel graph of what percentage you tip depending on the cost of a drink? I would be fascinated to see the results.

$40 shot of expensive liquor - $15 tip

lolol
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06-02-2008 , 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jbizz54
Wow some people on here are completely ******ed.

You should have told her to suck a dick and tipping is voluntary and let the owner/manager know that employees are trying to 'ban' customers for not tipping up to their approval rating when they have made errors to begin with, and you are taking your $100 tabs ____ times per week somewhere else. When you ask for your tab, it is now closed, and her putting more drinks on it is her **** up, and not yours. The bill with $100 is the one you are paying, and you should have held onto the receipt and told her you're not paying another $13 for drinks you did not personally order and it is not your problem that she screwed up.

I'm assuming she gave away $13 worth of drinks to her friends or other customers she considers good tippers, and put them on your tab assuming you were too drunk to notice and that she could coerce you into paying them anyways.
I know many people in the bar industry, some of whom are owners. You would be surprised how many of them would not care one lick if cheapos who say things like "tipping is voluntary" were all 86'ed from their establishments. There are many bar owners who want their bartenders to provide professional service and want them to make good money, along with the bar. They do not want to be a playground for cheap people to drink their alcohol and enjoy their ambience without compensating the staff.

If you can't afford the cost of the drink + $1 (or more for expensive drinks), you should be drinking at home. Bars don't owe you a good time if you are too cheap to leave a decent tip.

KJS
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06-02-2008 , 04:12 PM
This is the worst tipping thread ever.
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06-02-2008 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Henry, can you please construct an Excel graph of what percentage you tip depending on the cost of a drink? I would be fascinated to see the results.

$40 shot of expensive liquor - $15 tip

lolol
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06-02-2008 , 04:26 PM
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You realize there are millions of people in this country who aren't banned from any bars and get great service and don't feel the need to give $20 just because someone asked? You're the sucker here, not everyone else.
Throwing her an extra $20 is the only resolution to the situation that allows for OP to be welcome back. People are focusing on the fact that what she did is wrong and I agree. I just don't care. $20 is nothing and it ensures I won't have to avoid going to a particular location.

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Henry, can you please construct an Excel graph of what percentage you tip depending on the cost of a drink? I would be fascinated to see the results.
I think I'll pass. I know I tip more than normal. I also get special treatment. Bars have installed wifi so I can play from their patios, they stock booze specifically for me, I don't ever wait in line, if I drink too much they take my car home, etc. But put that aside we are talking about $20 and having a conflict over $20. I don't care how hard up I might be if I can afford to drink in a bar I can afford to fix this problem for a $20 and just walk away with it resolved

Last week I was walking and the server ran into me and dropped a steak. It was probably more his fault than mine. I could have just said sorry and walked away like nothing happened. Instead I paid for the guys steak and bought the table a round. Didn't have to but for $60 I managed to avoid having a disgruntled employee at a pub that I might want to go to again. I think people underestimate the value of having bar staff on your side.
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06-02-2008 , 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ilikeaces86_
At the point when she told me that the bill was $113 and not $100 I would of been like Oh it was? Ok can I get my $7 change back plz?
This is the right answer. B*tch needs to understand she crossed the line. Especially when she implied OP was lying, unheard of. The $7 penalty should get the message across and maybe she'll learn to work on her customer service and a greater good can be served.

If she had a bad day, too F'ing bad. Part of any job is faking a good attitude. Can I mouth off to my boss or a client cause I'm having a bad day?
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06-02-2008 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Henry17
Last week I was walking and the server ran into me and dropped a steak. It was probably more his fault than mine. I could have just said sorry and walked away like nothing happened. Instead I paid for the guys steak and bought the table a round. Didn't have to but for $60 I managed to avoid having a disgruntled employee at a pub that I might want to go to again. I think people underestimate the value of having bar staff on your side.
it may be the case that people in general underestimate the value of having bar staff on your side, but don't you think it's possible that you value this at an irrationally high level? if you're leaving $15 tips on $35 drinks you're paying an absurd amount for having them "on your side". if you tipped half as much as you do you'd still be 99th percentile and would get nearly the full value of being liked that you currently spend twice as much for.
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06-02-2008 , 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Philosophy
I believe this girl is so arrogant that she thinks she could ban me without even having any input from management.
She can 86 whomever she wants and most bar owners will tell their staff to do so if a customers is acting inappropriately. And when the stories are told they will in almost all cases side with the employee. You have no right to drink there. It is their right is for them to refuse service to anyone they please.

KJS
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06-02-2008 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Los Feliz Slim
This is the worst tipping thread ever.
I know.

Imagine a world where there was no cheapskates. None of this BS would happen. Cheap people suck.

KJS
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06-02-2008 , 06:04 PM
henry,

$60 for a steak + a round of drinks? wtf, were you at denny's?
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06-02-2008 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Henry17
Because she believes the bill was $113. Her behaviour is unprofessional and rude but for $20 I get to walk away from the situation without a conflict and next time I'm in that bar I'll get good service. That is worth $20 to me. I spend a lot of time in bars so I feel keeping bar staff happy is important.
why do you troll every single thread?
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06-02-2008 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by KJS
I know.

Imagine a world where there was no cheapskates. None of this BS would happen. Cheap people suck.

KJS
So so true. Cheapness is a huge personality flaw imo.
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06-02-2008 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Yeti
henry,

$60 for a steak + a round of drinks? wtf, were you at denny's?
It was a pub and they were drinking beer.
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06-02-2008 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by grando
why do you troll every single thread?
How is disagreeing with people trolling? The more I come to terms with how cheap 2P2 posters are the more I understand why they have the life issues they have.
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06-02-2008 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Henry17
Throwing her an extra $20 is the only resolution to the situation that allows for OP to be welcome back. People are focusing on the fact that what she did is wrong and I agree. I just don't care. $20 is nothing and it ensures I won't have to avoid going to a particular location.



I think I'll pass. I know I tip more than normal. I also get special treatment. Bars have installed wifi so I can play from their patios, they stock booze specifically for me, I don't ever wait in line, if I drink too much they take my car home, etc. But put that aside we are talking about $20 and having a conflict over $20. I don't care how hard up I might be if I can afford to drink in a bar I can afford to fix this problem for a $20 and just walk away with it resolved

Last week I was walking and the server ran into me and dropped a steak. It was probably more his fault than mine. I could have just said sorry and walked away like nothing happened. Instead I paid for the guys steak and bought the table a round. Didn't have to but for $60 I managed to avoid having a disgruntled employee at a pub that I might want to go to again. I think people underestimate the value of having bar staff on your side.

lol, you have to pay for your friends. Were you the kid in 4th grade who had to give other kids toys to hang out with you?
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06-02-2008 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Henry17
How is disagreeing with people trolling? The more I come to terms with how cheap 2P2 posters are the more I understand why they have the life issues they have.
Most people would go broke very quickly using your life guidelines. wtf, guilt tipping and higher percentage of higher cost stuff? So the chick that serves you at Friendly's is worth 4$ cause that's 20% of cheap food but some bartender pours you a 40$ shot and they get 10$?
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06-02-2008 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Henry17
How is disagreeing with people trolling? The more I come to terms with how cheap 2P2 posters are the more I understand why they have the life issues they have.
ya, if they only threw more $20's around they be much happier imo.
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