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01-28-2017 , 04:11 PM
well, there are a lot of dumb people in the world.

you could very well be one of them.
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01-28-2017 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
Why is it strange? Is it more strange than asking about a pool? I don't have kids but it doesn't seem that strange for guns to be a hot button issue with a parent. I wasn't allowed to have play guns when I was growing up and that was before anyone cared about the 2A or guns.
Pretend you have a kid. You live in an upscale suburban community. Make a list of all the likely things that you'd be concerned about on a sleepover. If you are honest with yourself "by the way, is there any chance my kid gets shot" will be way, way down the list.
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01-28-2017 , 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by econophile
well, there are a lot of dumb people in the world.

you could very well be one of them.
I could well be. But you'll never be able to tell by calling me up and asking what dangerous items I have in the house and what measures I take to keep my children safe from them.

But if you can't trust incestuous therapists, who can you trust?
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01-28-2017 , 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
It isn't guns, per se. It is a privacy issue. It isn't anyone's business if I have a gun in my home--at least not where I live. Or a dildo or a blowup mannequin or a refrigerator full of beer or wine on the kitchen counter. It would be like someone asking the balance in my checking account or my net worth.

If someone wants to allow their kid to come spend the night with my kid, fine. If they want to come meet me first, fine. If they want me to submit to a lot of personal questions that are really none of their business, we are probably all better off if their kid stays at their own house.

In the context of the OP, it would be like asking me if I were so ****ing dumb that I would leave loaded guns strewn about the house with children running around. If a parent feels they don't know enough about me to allow their kid to stay at my house, that is fine--my feelings won't be hurt and my kid will be able to deal with the disappointment.
LOL, OK.
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01-28-2017 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Didace
Pretend you have a kid. You live in an upscale suburban community. Make a list of all the likely things that you'd be concerned about on a sleepover. If you are honest with yourself "by the way, is there any chance my kid gets shot" will be way, way down the list.
So LFSs lying?
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01-28-2017 , 04:38 PM
For me that is a super interesting discussion. When I first read OP, I thought that it is pretty normal question of worried parents. It seems to me even more normal, because guns in private hands are rare exception, where I live.

But after reading all that, I totally see, how this question may be perceived as judgmental or intruding. It is kind of like when I am asked if I have a BF.

But LFS is truly worried about safety. Can his question be formulated so, that it can not be perceived as judgmental? Kind of like " I am sorry, I am a little paranoid with safety issues. It comes from one of my friends being shot by his brother......bla bla bla. You would immensely help me to calm down, If I could be sure that there is no danger from firearms during this sleepover....." Basically something emphasizing, that the problem is on LFS side, and the other couple could help relieve this problem.
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01-28-2017 , 04:47 PM
You can't spell 'therapist' without 'rapist'.
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01-28-2017 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
So LFSs lying?
No. You asked -
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Originally Posted by kerowo
Why is it strange?
I answered. At least I answered for me. Others - such as LFS's wife - might be different. But as I said earlier, I'm probably just as likely to ask if they eat dinner naked as I am to ask if they have guns. So the question seems strange to me.
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01-28-2017 , 04:55 PM
Seems like we're having a culture clash in here.
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01-28-2017 , 05:03 PM
I can't believe you would ask that. Their kid hasn't shot himself yet. Are you implying that your child is so stupid that extra precautions need to be taken?
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01-28-2017 , 05:08 PM
This question is not that strange to me. At least not compared to what I've been hearing over the last five or so years. I have grandkids who live with me from ages 20 to 9.
They have all had or been invited to sleepovers, usually as a theme for a birthday party.

Lately, I've been asked by parents if I had a pet, if it can be kept away from a child who is fearful. Will I be serving peanuts? Gluten? Soft drinks? Anything vegan? What movies will be watched? Are they all "G" rated? Are siblings invited? Will the male sibling in my household be attending?

Some parents drop their kids off without even stopping in to introduce themselves. Others want to give so many instructions you can't wait til they leave. Believe me, some people can really go overboard. So I have to tell you, I wouldn't be at all surprised if someone asked me about a gun. Parenting ain't what it used to be.
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01-28-2017 , 05:09 PM
LFS, you may not want to watch this:



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01-28-2017 , 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Girl on girl. Nowadays they have enough girls for teams.
cool.
Would you/wife gone along with co-ed?
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Also, the brother and sister that married each other are both therapists?? Am I reading that correctly, wow.
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Originally Posted by Your Mom
it takes f'd up to help f'd up
Truth. I wonder what % of therapists got into the field to figure out their own ****. I'd guess 75%.

Asking about a gun in the house seems totally appropriate. And 2 reasonable couples reached a reasonable conclusion.

Now, did LFS warn the parents to also lock up the cookies?
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01-28-2017 , 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
Not sure why people are so freaked out that there are people who don't like guns and perhaps don't want their kids to be around them.
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Originally Posted by dkgojackets
was strange to go straight to specifically asking about a gun but seems like everything worked out. good job everyone
exactly, nobody is freaking out. some were just puzzled
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01-28-2017 , 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by NhlNut
cool.
Would you/wife gone along with co-ed?
Yes. We didn't really know at first and she has wrestled boys a couple times in practice. I guess I prefer that there's a girls team though.
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01-28-2017 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
You can't spell 'therapist' without 'rapist'.
There's No 'My Kid Has Cancer' In Team
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01-28-2017 , 07:48 PM
I am sure it's been brought up already but the parents are going to be home, it's not like they are leaving the house for the night while the kids search every room and finding the gun. IDK, seems like much ado about nothing. Kids will either be in the friends room or living room.
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01-28-2017 , 08:00 PM
logic & facts vs "as a parent.." level risk analysis itt
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01-28-2017 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by econophile
LFS, you may not want to watch this:



It seems like it'd be easy to sit with a 5 y/o watching movies with guns in them and explaining how they work and how they aren't to be ever fooled with. If they are inquisitive then you take them to the range and they see how powerful they are. If they still are interested then you send them to a good military school to make America proud.

Of course these stupid ass parents shield their kids instead of teaching and reinforcing. Of course they shoot the guns. They probably believe that their life mirrors Disney movies and some angel will save them if something goes wrong.
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01-28-2017 , 08:33 PM
did you miss the first video where all the kids took a gun safety class before finding the guns?
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01-28-2017 , 08:34 PM
Kids aren't just little rational adults...
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01-28-2017 , 08:36 PM
The question isn't whether kids can handle a gun or not. The question is whether it's appropriate to ask the other parents to get a gun case before they let their child stay over. I don't think that's reasonable to ask, if I had that little trust in a Parent that my child will stay with I probably wouldn't let them stay in the first place
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01-28-2017 , 08:38 PM
And this isn't an a liberal or conservative thing either, I'm liberal AF and would never own a gun or be comfortable there with the idea of one in my home. But if I trusted the parents at all I would trust that they can keep a gun away from a bunch of 12-year-olds for a few hours. I would also weigh
the social stigma my child is likely to face from my helicopter parenting versus the very minuscule risk that something happens to him
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01-28-2017 , 09:17 PM
more incest, less guns...
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01-28-2017 , 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by econophile
did you miss the first video where all the kids took a gun safety class before finding the guns?
Yes, and I'm not surprised that it didn't stick. It takes time and emotional reinforcement to instill a lesson.
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